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Rant alert! How do those who want Lockdown to continue justify the suffering of everyone else?

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Thefrenchbaguette · 05/06/2020 08:35

My 3 month old has been waiting for a hip scan to confirm her rather obvious DDH. She needs a harness, the GP already confirmed she will need one and put in an urgent referral at her 6 week review and still nothing because they're not doing them at all here! You can only use a harness up until 6 months and after that the treatment for DDH is an operation! My baby is going to have to have a completely unavoidable operation or suffer lifelong damage to her hips because the NHS is just not interested in anyone who doesn't have Covid19! There isn't even the option to pay for it to be done privately! I am furious and so sick of seeing countless threads and comments about how lockdown needs to be continued and even stricter! All very well with your comfortable house and perfectly secure income and no real risk to your overall well-being but what about everyone else who is suffering?!
A friend had an abnormal smear come back in January but the follow up has been indefinitely postponed! How many people are going to miss life saving diagnosis', life saving treatments! It's disgusting and I feel so unbelievably angry at what this country has come through so 90% of people can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold!

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cyclingmad · 05/06/2020 12:00

The NHS gets an awful lot of money it is not funding that's the problem it's how that funding is misused.

Frogshoe · 05/06/2020 12:00

As someone who has had a lifetime of pain and disability from DDH I get your anxiety and anger. Outpatient appointments are now being offered, I just received one for my daughter. I hope you get your scan date soon so treatment can begin

Megatron · 05/06/2020 12:01

I was right with you until this -

can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold!

and your 'explanation' doesn't change that.

I'm also waiting for an essential operation that has been postponed indefinitely.

Notonthestairs · 05/06/2020 12:02

I don't think we have any real idea how CV19 is progressing in parts of Africa, South America, Iran and Russia do we?

Op you need to be pursuing the referral daily. I have a child with complex SEN and learnt the hard way (lockdown or no lockdown) that we get help by being pushy and following up every single phone call in writing, over and over.

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Gwenhwyfar · 05/06/2020 12:05

"The NHS gets an awful lot of money it is not funding that's the problem it's how that funding is misused."

No. There are inefficiencies, but there's also not enough money.

LilyPond2 · 05/06/2020 12:09

Haven't RTFT, but OP you have completely misunderstood the position! Medical treatment was never banned under lockdown. If your DD can't get the treatment she needs, that is an NHS resourcing/prioritisation issue. Lockdown rules haven't banned hospitals from treating your DD. If lockdown is lifted even further, we will inevitably see a spike in Covid cases. NHS resources will then be diverted to those and your DD will wait even longer for treatment. Be careful what you wish for!

iamapixie · 05/06/2020 12:10

Totally with you OP. Doesn't help at all I know but you are not alone. I think that in a few years time, when we are still paying the health, social and economic costs of lockdown, we will think that this was a period of mass insanity.
hope your baby does get the necessary treatment as soon as possible.

Movinghouseatlast · 05/06/2020 12:12

Bad cold? 40,000 families have been ripped apart by a bad cold you think?

cyclingmad · 05/06/2020 12:13

Inefficiency means wasting money which ca be used better so why dont we fix that first and then see how much more money it really needs

WikkiTikkiWoo · 05/06/2020 12:14

@MsSafina

The thing that annoys me the most is how those BLM demos were allowed to take place possibly causing a spike which could lead to another lockdown.
What annoys me the most is how those idiots were allowed to go to the beach and parks possibly causing a spike which could lead to another lockdown
formerbabe · 05/06/2020 12:17

40,000 families have been ripped apart by a bad cold you think?

47% of deaths in people aged 85+. I've been through many bereavements...it's always sad but I wouldn't say the deaths of my very elderly relatives ripped our family apart.

Alsohuman · 05/06/2020 12:19

Good for you. My parents died in their late 90s. My heart was lacerated.

MH1111 · 05/06/2020 12:19

The irony of ‘protect the NHS, save lives’

In reality it’s ‘only use the NHS if you have COVID 19 and save COVID lives’

EnlightenedOwl · 05/06/2020 12:22

I am sorry for your loss my parents died at 67 within 6 months of each other 9yrs ago I would have given anything for them to get to that age

EnlightenedOwl · 05/06/2020 12:23

@LilyPond2

Haven't RTFT, but OP you have completely misunderstood the position! Medical treatment was never banned under lockdown. If your DD can't get the treatment she needs, that is an NHS resourcing/prioritisation issue. Lockdown rules haven't banned hospitals from treating your DD. If lockdown is lifted even further, we will inevitably see a spike in Covid cases. NHS resources will then be diverted to those and your DD will wait even longer for treatment. Be careful what you wish for!
Shall we lockdown forever?
formerbabe · 05/06/2020 12:25

Good for you. My parents died in their late 90s. My heart was lacerated

Yes it's sad on a personal level. But people don't live forever. People dying in their nineties is not especially surprising or tragic from an objective point of view.

Alsohuman · 05/06/2020 12:25

Mine were six month apart too @Enlightenedowl, it must have been dreadful to lose them at such a relatively young age. I’m sorry for your loss too. 💐

AudaCityLimits · 05/06/2020 12:25

I'm sorry about your situation. All my doctors say that I need a smear (and probably treatment for something frighteningly unknown) but nothing is happening at present. I am in pain every day, and when a locum GP gave me an internal, she said she could "feel something there."
Nevertheless, I agree with the continuation of lockdown for the good of the population as a whole.
Your post smacks of the kind of whataboutism that is sadly seen too often now. You really don't need to minimise others' suffering in order to help your daughter. It's a shit situation for everyone.

MagicKingdomDizzy · 05/06/2020 12:25

EmeraldShamrock

Thanks, that's really kind.

She's still critical. Unfortunately she has an infection which wasn't treated properly at the start of lockdown (GP wouldn't see her and just kept prescribing different medicines without examining her). It migrated to her spine and required hospital admission, she then contracted Covid in hospital.

I think if my mum had been properly assessed the first time we wouldn't be in this situation, so I do feel for the OP, as the lack of regular medical services is definitely making things worse for people, including the OPs daughter. There's no easy answer to any of this.

Alsohuman · 05/06/2020 12:26

News flash @formerbabe, most people aren’t objective about losing people they love dearly. And crass comments like that are extremely offensive.

Pebblexox · 05/06/2020 12:31

My daughter has hip dysplasia, wasn't discovered until she 6 months old. We've had 4 months of casts with 3 surgeries, and then a further 3 months in a brace during the night. So I understand where you're coming from, and I'm sorry if it gets to the surgeries.
We also have a backlog of appointments, under orthopaedics, paediatrics, cardiology and genetics. So I don't want the lockdown to carry on for much longer, I want to get back on track and get things moving again.
However, I do understand why people aren't in a rush. It's a very scary place outside right now, people are worried for elderly family members, vulnerable friends. Be angry at your situation, but don't be angry at people who are scared for lockdown to end.

formerbabe · 05/06/2020 12:31

News flash @formerbabe, most people aren’t objective about losing people they love dearly. And crass comments like that are extremely offensive

Yeah I know. My mum died in her early forties and my dad in his fifties.

My grandparents died in their late eighties. I was sad but I won't say it was a tragedy or anything particularly unusual. I didn't think they would live forever.

scarbados · 05/06/2020 12:32

I was with you until you referred to C19 as a bad cold.

Fuck off.

qweryuiop · 05/06/2020 12:32

@Kazzyhoward

The NHS has already said they have plenty of capacity,

So why aren't they back to treating "normal" patients???

They are treating non covid patients. They never stopped. What did happen was prioritisation, which always happens. The effects of covid and shielding on the NHS have been to push people further down waiting lists. People who would normally have been treated in a month will wait many months. My friend, waiting on a knee replacement due in April, may have to wait a year. It's not good, but it is just an extension of what has always happened.
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