Rant alert! How do those who want Lockdown to continue justify the suffering of everyone else?

[Thefrenchbaguette]

My 3 month old has been waiting for a hip scan to confirm her rather obvious DDH. She needs a harness, the GP already confirmed she will need one and put in an urgent referral at her 6 week review and still nothing because they're not doing them at all here! You can only use a harness up until 6 months and after that the treatment for DDH is an operation! My baby is going to have to have a completely unavoidable operation or suffer lifelong damage to her hips because the NHS is just not interested in anyone who doesn't have Covid19! There isn't even the option to pay for it to be done privately! I am furious and so sick of seeing countless threads and comments about how lockdown needs to be continued and even stricter! All very well with your comfortable house and perfectly secure income and no real risk to your overall well-being but what about everyone else who is suffering?!
A friend had an abnormal smear come back in January but the follow up has been indefinitely postponed! How many people are going to miss life saving diagnosis', life saving treatments! It's disgusting and I feel so unbelievably angry at what this country has come through so 90% of people can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold!

This is awful. My dd went into a Pavlik harness at a week old for hip dysplasia, it is vital they get early treatment.

In other words i think there's a balance- don't ease everything too soon but open up the right things like other NHS facilities

Not one person who has died with the virus (because let's not forget that they have never been able to differentiate from dying of and dying with) died because of a lack of access to treatment.

Unbelievably ignorant statement, OP. Read this.

The NHS is doing just fine in treating those that need it

No, large parts of the NHS still havn't re-opened and aren't giving treatments etc.

I understand your anger but I think your angry at the wrong people. The NHS was on its knees before Covid. If it was properly funded we could be in lockdown and still deal with urgent medical treatment.

To be angry at people who want to keep their loved ones healthy and safe is to be angry at yourself.

Your complaint isn't with people wanting to continue lockdown, it’s with the nhs.

They are just showing their incompetence and negligent behaviour by refusing to provide care.

Yep, they are refusing to treat your child.

They are not overwhelmed.

I bet you still clapped, though.

PS. It’s not a bad cold. Go to a private orthopaedic paediatrician, send the nhs the bill after.

So I havent read the whole thread and dont know if anyone else has pointed out the sheer stupidity of your post. We have continuing lockdown so that the NHS is not overwheled by dying people, some of them health care staff, and can therefore get back to other work. If there is a second wave now your child will not only not get their harness they wont get their operation either.

If you were saying I really need this lockdown to continue your post would at least have made sense while still being goady and insulting to all those who have died.

This is another example of a post with misguided anger. Your enemy is not the people who think that precautions are necessary or wish to stay away from others, it's a government who bled the NHS dry so that when this crisis hit they had no choice but to focus resources on what was deemed to be an emergency.

Hope your daughter gets treatment ASAP @Thefrenchbaguette

@CHIRIBAYA
"Surely the OP's daughter is AS important as everyone else - many of these 'everyones' having already lived, in many cases, very long lives."
What are you trying to say - that all lives matter? Only if you look at the BLM issue, there are many who are castigated for saying that. Saying that everyone matters is to relegate the importance, right now, of the most important issue.

Only 47% of the deaths from Covid-19 up to 22 May 2020 have been in over 85s. So over 50% have not had very long lives.

YABVU. You’re ranting at the wrong thing. You should be ranting at the virus. And at the government for not locking down sooner and harder. Do you not realise that lifting lockdown is likely to make a second wave more likely, leading to more pressure on the NHS, leading to more cancellation of other treatments. Your daughter isn’t going to die from her hip problem. But 10s of thousands have died from this condition you callously and cruelly dismiss as a bad cold.

@MsSafina

The thing that annoys me the most is how those BLM demos were allowed to take place possibly causing a spike which could lead to another lockdown.

That’s what everyone was saying about the VE Day celebrations, we didn’t have a spike after that. Apparently allowing people to travel as far as they chose nearly three weeks ago was going to cause another spike, again it doesn’t seem to have happened. Chris Witty says he thinks the worst is over.

I can’t see another national lockdown happening. For one thing people won’t be so compliant a second time, and for another it’s unaffordable.

I am really sorry to hear about your dd and knowing someone whose child had to have surgery for it i can understand your concerns about early treatment. My dd has had all her cardiology appointments cancelled which is worrying especially as they are talking about an ILR implant.
But Covid isn't just a bad cold, my 18 year old relatively healthy and fit ds caught it, he was in bed for 13 days and he has never been so ill in his life but fortunately he recovered after 4 weeks and i count ourselves very lucky that it didn't progress further. He is now trying to put on the 7lbs he lost as he was already underweight and seeing dietician.

Blaming lockdown is stupid. If it wasn't for lockdown, the NHS would be even more fucked than it already is.

@Nihiloxica

What if it was a choice between your baby being captured by a giant eagle or a made up old lady being flattened by a steam roller?

Why do you want to murder Gladys and for her to die a painful death instead of letting your child be raised by giant birds?

AT LEAST SHE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE!!!

@Nihiloxica I think I love you!

OP I’m sorry to hear about your baby. It’s bludy awful that you’re having to wait.

I absolutely agree with your post. Unless it’s covid related, it’s not important.

It’s shocking to be honest they way they prioritise that above EVERYTHING!!!

I hope your baby is ok OP. She should priority! Makes me so angry that they’re protecting people from covid at the expense of others suffering.

They are just showing their incompetence and negligent behaviour by refusing to provide care.

Blaming the NHS? You need to look at the bigger picture which is a funding issue bright on by our wonderful government. People need to stop shouting at their fellow man and look to the government.

I'm quite frankly tired of small minded people shouting at one another

Blaming the teachers for 'not going back wanting to go back to school' (despite huge government failings for not providing PPE and following their own science)

Blaming the NHS for not coping. Perhaps they just don't care enough ay?

Blaming Those who support protective measures for your own lack of liberty.

The problems are far beyond you and me though the media keeps us fixated on those so that we keep arguing among ourselves and stop thinking.

It's the government who are failing us.

The OP clearly doesn't understand percentages, even if only about half the population got it at roughly the same time at a 1% mortality rate there would be 33000 deaths ,that is roughly half the yearly number, and if 10% of the population needed hospital support the figure would be 330000, all within a few weeks of each other if the virus was allowed to go unchecked through the population .

Thefrenchbaguette, my dd is also awaiting medical treatment and facing a lifetime of added disability if she doesn't get it. She is also in pretty constant pain and has been for over 8 weeks.

The difference is, I really really don't believe she would get treated any quicker if more NHS staff died or were in ICU or even if more of them were ill at home.

People have already died at home because there wasn't an ambulance available.

I also wouldn't care to pop round and tell those of my friends who are now on their 10th/11th week of the virus and struggling with damage to their kidneys, heart, blood circulation and lungs, that what they have is a bad cold.

Or those children who are in intensive care with the Kawasaki-type syndrome that children are susceptible to after corona. Why don't we just pop round to their parents and explain that they can't possibly be really ill because for children, this is only a bad cold? Or if they did get that ill then they must have had some underlying condition that meant their lives weren't worth saving.

I agree with you OP.

I know a few people who tested positive for coronavirus and all of them described it as a bad cold which they treated at home.

The economy is being destroyed, businesses are closing, children are missing vital education, people are losing their jobs and homes, people are being denied medical treatment and being told to wait for referrals, even mental health is being ignored. I personally know of someone who killed themselves due to the stress of lockdown.

Yet we continue to lockdown. The NHS has already said they have plenty of capacity, they didn't need the specially built hospitals or the morgues.

It's ridiculous, the risk of catching and dying from covid is very small. Most people will catch it and recover within a week or two.

If someone is at risk or vulnerable, continue to shield. The rest of us need to get back to normal.

"I'd like to know what the figures are for people who were dying anyway. They're probably there but I'm so confused about the figures now."
95% of deaths in March and April (registered by 05 May 2020) were due to Covid-19 so only 5% and deaths involving Covid-19 where the actual cause was something else.

@TabbyMumz

"Let's hope an actual killer pandemic doesn't arise in the next few years, because we have well and truly blown our load on this one." so this wasnt a killer pandemic? Despite millions dying across the world and scientists telling you it is? Not that clever, are you?

millions

@Thefrenchbaguette - I feel sorry for your baby & you, it's terrible. But honestly, comparing it to a bad cold. You need to educate yourself.

@TabbyMumz

"I'd say that 400,000 deaths WITH lockdowns etc across the world it pretty worrying." Yes I would too, and I very much doubt the numbers of a lot of countries.

I doubt them too, given that the WHO has specifically encouraged countries to err on the side of covid19 as cause of death, even if they haven't been tested.

The NHS has already said they have plenty of capacity,

So why aren't they back to treating "normal" patients???