You're white. You haven't experienced racism

[PatricksRum]

I'm so sick of repeating myself today.
AIBU or is ignorance just bliss?

@WhoAteAllTheWotsits

But was that racism a direct result of years of government decisions, policies, and power? The person who was racist towards you, did they have hundreds of years of indoctrined behaviour and beliefs driving what they said and did?

In one case, yes. Their heritage is such that they may have been taught to hate by their parents and grandparents. Hating as an adult is a conscious decision, though. You have a choice to overcome what you've been taught or carry on perpetuating prejudice. This individual chose the latter.

In the other case, they were achingly woke individuals like you. Wokeness has its own targets. Anybody who paid attention to the Labour senior leadership in the last few years is aware of this. I dread to think what government policies we would have ended up with had that shower got in. Beware the person who tells you they are free of prejudice or that they have a more evolved consciousness than you. Chances are they are the most prejudiced person in the room.

In both cases these individuals had power over me in the workplace and my contract wasn't extended. There was no problem with my work and in fact one of them told me I was doing a very good job. If you're going to lecture about prejudice, at least try to do so intelligently. Everybody can experience prejudice based on race. If you argue otherwise you aren't qualified to discuss it.

WhoAteAllTheWotsits
The fact that you have the ability to say “I’m white and I was racially abused’ in absolute horror,
What you are really saying is “how dare those black/Muslim/whatever people say those things to me! Don’t they know who they are?! And I’m white, how dare they be racist towards my superior skin colour!”

So know you know how everyone thinks?

What you are showing in that statement is your own bias and prejudice.

I’m well aware they didn’t say them aloud but I’m 99% certain it’s what that person was thinking.

You are so naive. I am white, but have dark brown hair. That has been quite enough for a certain type of people to call me the n-word. I have also been told by a fellow Dane, that I was "well-integrated" because someone with my hair colour couldn't possibly be Danish. Actually one of the things I appreciate about living in the UK, is that when people ask me where I am from it goes like this: "From Denmark". ""Oh, I stupidly thought that all Danes were blond, but I guess not". End of story. As opposed to in Denmark: "No, I mean: Where are you REALLY from? No, where are you REALLY from? No, where are you REALLY from?" Yes, they do always effing repeat the sentence. Then if course there were the Turkish and Pakistani people of both genders who gave me the stink eye and/or acted very hostile towards me because I was wearing neither scarf nor hijab. I started wearing a cross, even though I am not religious. That took away some of the hostilities.

I'm white. I worked in Africa for a while. I experienced racist language and comments and treatment and was more vulnerable as a white woman than a black woman in lots of ways.
However, I was not experiencing a racist system. I was working in Africa temporarily and could return to my majority white home country and become part of the majority again. I had a choice. Black people can't opt out like that. Also the treatment I received (comments, assuming I'm a tourist, being charged higher prices/ripped off, sexual advances as examples) are a result of the system white people set up. Why did they assume I had more money and wealth? Because it's far more likely that white people do. Why did some people dislike me for the colour of my skin? Because of the reality of historic and current white oppression. Sure I experienced the definition of racism technically and had a taste of being more unsafe in some situations because of my melanin levels, but it was a mild little offshoot of the whole sorry mess started and perpetuated by white people so what, for 1% of my life my privilege had a downside, I wouldn't class that as being a victim of racism and if I was it was the consequence of colonialism and racism started by white people, so it's still on them.
Being temporarily made to feel uncomfortable because of my skin colour is not the same as living under a system stacked against you because of your skin colour, especially when you benefit from that system 99.9% of the time.

What you are really saying is “how dare those black/Muslim/whatever people say those things to me! Don’t they know who they are?! And I’m white, how dare they be racist towards my superior skin colour!

Is it? Or maybe they're shocked at someone being so staggeringly rude and ignorant?

Don't make presumptions about people, it's staggeringly rude and ignorant.

@LydiaDusbyn

I find the "You're white. You haven't experienced racism." one of the most racist presumptions imaginable.

Really? You think that sentiment is a more racist presumption than “this person is black so their life doesn’t matter.”?

Ok.
(kk.)

What you are really saying is “how dare those black/Muslim/whatever people say those things to me! Don’t they know who they are?! And I’m white, how dare they be racist towards my superior skin colour!”

There’s your white privilege."

Appalling thing to say

You are so naive. I am white, but have dark brown hair. That has been quite enough for a certain type of people to call me the n-word

Seriously, now we’ve got white Danes with dark hair trying to pretend they face the same racism as black people?

This thread would be funny if it weren’t tragic 😂

Articulately put @Xiphisternum

I've been to Denmark. I saw lots of Danes with brown hair!

@AvranaKernsBestSpider
"Really? You think that sentiment is a more racist presumption than “this person is black so their life doesn’t matter.”?

Ok.
(kk.)"

They're both racist presumptions. Hope that helps.

Mind you, if you're going to accuse her of being a member of the KKK I doubt that thinking is your thing.

I don't know if the original poster counts jews as white or not but I expect all of us can agree there is racism against them surely even if some think no one even the Chinese or Japanese in their home country is ever racist against whites?

Still not racist though. Ignorant? Bigoted? Totally. Not racist though

Again this has become all about white feelings. GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDERED. BREONNA TAYLOR WAS MURDERED. Innocent black people are being MURDERED, right now.

Can people really not see how saying ‘I’ve had racist things said to me’ etc is so ignorant of what is going on and has been going on for years? And how it detracts from the real issue?

It’s not a competition in life, just because you may have experienced something once (or even several times) does not mean that your experience is superior to the experiences of blacks people in the west. Or even equal!

Yeah you can think I’m ‘woke’ if you want. I’ll carry on thinking you are ignorant.

RIP George Floyd.

NotNowPlzz
Again this has become all about white feelings

The thread is about white people. Its there in the title.

You're absolutely right OP. I can't cope with the amount of people disagreeing.

RIP George

Yeah you can think I’m ‘woke’ if you want. I’ll carry on thinking you are ignorant.

You don't come across as 'woke'. Making assumptions makes you appear as thick as a knuckle dragging racist.

RIP Breonna

[quote SuckingDieselFella]@AvranaKernsBestSpider
"Really? You think that sentiment is a more racist presumption than “this person is black so their life doesn’t matter.”?

Ok.
(kk.)"

They're both racist presumptions. Hope that helps.

Mind you, if you're going to accuse her of being a member of the KKK I doubt that thinking is your thing.[/quote]
That poster said it’s one of the most racist presumptions imaginable. Do you agree with them? Do you agree that it’s more racist than my example?

RIP Ahmaud

@NotNowPlzz

Again this has become all about white feelings. GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDERED. BREONNA TAYLOR WAS MURDERED. Innocent black people are being MURDERED, right now.

The thread title is "You're white. You haven't expressed racism."

You can't blame people for responding to what was posted.