You're white. You haven't experienced racism

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I'm so sick of repeating myself today.
AIBU or is ignorance just bliss?

"Ican't answer all of your questions but two of the cops were recruits and the one kneeling on the neck and the Asian officer both have form for brutality."
Ah that's interesting, thankyou.

@alittleprivacy this is awesome. I think we have to start at the root of the problem. Schools wishy washy policies aren't quite robust enough to change anything and I think that may in part be due to systematic racism.
Parents can change so so much. Pp here are writing off a white persons one bad experience of racism, however sometimes that's all it takes to end up with more people hating each other. Races need to come together. Lots of cultures are derogatory about lots of other cultures and colours of skin. It's not so simple to say it's white on blacks etc.

Tell that to the Irish in the UK when the signs " no blacks, no dogs and no Irish" were the norm. We might be white but suffered the same discrimination and note how we were listed after dogs. Add to that the famine and the 800 years of oppression. I don't hold it against the British people and have no bad feeling so not posting to start a row or have a go at anyone but just responding to your post that white people of different cultures, religions, countries can be discriminated against or oppressed as much as black people in some countries.

Are there no racist Irish people now? There are. So stop moaning, no one is being discriminated 'as much as black people'.

Schools policies are often just a tick box exercise for many things

Well said @Dillo10

sadly I don't feel I can post on this thread because anything I say will be criticised because I'm white. I have strong feelings that what has happened is very wrong what continues to happen is very wrong and that because of a couple of things that have happened in my life I can empathise and show solidarity. I'm afraid to say any more, I think it is wrong that individuals like me feel this way.

I am more than happy to assist in the fight against racism with you, please point me to a racist law/policy and I will combat it with you.

Oh and Please don't mention about police violence without figures.

Are there no racist Irish people now?

Who said that?

Astrabees - what are you afraid will happen? On this anonymous and predominantly white female website?

*Who said that?"

The point is having experienced racism doesn't mean Irish people can't be racists, so have some bloody sympathy for what black people are going through!

There is racism against white people, well women at least - we stopped going out in the city centre because of predatory Asian men who thought sexually harassing white women was ok because we went out without "a chaperone" and we all are "easy". I lost count how many times I was groped. It was targeted at a particular race which makes it racially motivated. In 5+ years here I never experienced it from white or Afro carribean decent men. I live in a very diverse area and in local bars people mix freely without leud behaviour. You may say it's cultural rather than race but it makes my life very uncomfortable and police ignore us when we complained saying it was banter, no it's always wrong!

And how come Irish people are a separate race now?!

@okiedokieme that's racially and culturally driven misogyny. Not racism

Well, I have been called a white bitch. I'm pretty sure that's racist.

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

I'm bowing out of this thread. It's turned into a circle jerk of whatabouttary which is embarrassing and exhausting.

I agree. And I think it very eloquently proves the OP's point. I'm bowing out too.

OP - this is doubtless the kind of response POC receive every time they try to make their voices heard. They are shouted down, told that their experiences are not valid, or are deafened with a chorus of 'what about me?' This isn't the nature of all responses on this thread, but a good many.

I see why you are exhausted.

I also see why the OP is exhausted.

Please, if you are having a defensive reaction to this thread, instead of having a knee jerk reaction take a pause, accept you might need to learn a little bit more about racism (it's OK there is a lot to learn about), do some reading around the subject preferably written by non-white authors. Try and be open to finding out what is really going on.

all this whatabouttary is really very horrible.

Because R.O.I is a separate country.

here is racism against white people, well women at least - we stopped going out in the city centre because of predatory Asian men who thought sexually harassing white women was ok because we went out without "a chaperone" and we all are "easy". I lost count how many times I was groped. It was targeted at a particular race which makes it racially motivated. In 5+ years here I never experienced it from white or Afro carribean decent men.

I'm guessing all the white people complaining on this thread will not call you out for saying Afro Caribbean men are decent and Asian men are not.

[quote spacecoma]@rosiejaune - Nope, not all Jews are mixed race, that is not true. I am 100% European Ashkenazi Jewish. No Middle Eastern in me. Ashkenazi Jews are normally pale skinned but there are lots of different groups that are white but are genetically distinct. My family have lived in Europe for over a thousand years. My grandparents are from Poland and Ukraine. Ashkenazi Jews are white. Mizrahi, Sephardi and Beta Israel are Middle Eastern and Ethiopian Jews. Do a DNA test and educate yourself.[/quote]
I have done a DNA test, and I am educated on the topic. Yes your DNA shows up as 100% Ashkenazi Jewish on the results. That's because that combination of ethnicities we have is very identifiable and can be reliably labelled as such. But that DNA is actually a mixture of others from further back.

Agreed Clitterati. Why is it so hard to just say. 'I'm sorry that happens to you. I'm listening. How can I support you?'

@Bluesheep8 so all white people in different countries are different races now?

One of my parents is white and one is white passing as am I.

I've not experienced racism directed at me. And I'm well aware that I've experienced plenty of white privilege.

My parent did as a child though, because everyone knew one of her parents was mixed race (is that ok to use? If not, can you let me know what is?). They used to call him a derogatory nickname which he put up with. She has curly very dark hair and used to get called "g#lliw#g". When you look at her school photo, apart from her hair she looks like everyone else.

It wasn't until she was older and moved away that she gained full white privilege. But she still hates her hair and straightens it. She struggles with me letting my hair be curly. She hates Robinsons jam because of the badges they used to make. There's other things that affect her too. Most of her life she hasn't been affected by racism, but those childhood years have caused deep wounds....and she didn't have it as bad as her parent.

I never experienced it from decent men.

There. Fixed that for you.

The point is having experienced racism doesn't mean Irish people can't be racists, so have some bloody sympathy for what black people are going through!

Who you are telling to have some sympathy?

Me....i am not white I have plenty of sympathy. I havent said ots OK for balck people because irish people have experienced it.

Or it the issue at hand.

But no one has said irish people can't be racist have they?

Racism is not about skin colour. It’s about cultural supremacy.