London Demonstrations

[nicsknackered]

Maybe iabu I don't know but I'm so pissed off at all of the photos online of the demonstrations taking place in London today. I know why they are doing it but ffs 15,000 people in a fucking park while we are only allowed to meet in a group of 6.

My kids have just returned to school for 2 days a week in small classes with only a few of their friends, my year 6er is missing everything and should be on a PGL trip this week. My husbands business is going down the drain but 15,000 fucking people can go and mix for a demonstration?

Let's just all wait for two weeks time shall we when the hospitals are busy again and people are screaming that their relatives are dying.

I'm really angry and fed up after seeing the photos, just feel like it's never going to end and we are never going to get away from these restrictions while other people don't give a shit.

Did someone really post 'all lives matter'?
I can't read the whole thread as it's making me cross. No fucking wonder there's protest, state of this thread.

@cyclingmad

Wtaf seriously! Your telling me its selfish of them to protest now cos of Covid, well guess what covid hasnt put a pause on black people being murdered for no reason has it.

Racism hasn't been put on hold.

I'd rather die from covid then die because I was murdered by the police for the colour of my skin.

We aren't in America though

You think the protests that are happening in different countries (now even Sweden) are bad now? Wait until the officers responsible for killing George Floyd are acquitted.

I can't read the whole thread as it's making me cross. No fucking wonder there's protest, state of this thread

It would be quite amusing if it wasn't so serious. By objecting to the protest, those people objecting are doing a great job of showing why the protest is necessary and justified.

I think anything involving thousands of people grouping together is a daft idea, during a pandemic. The protests won't change anything, but are very likely going to cause more deaths from Covid-19.

At least the demonstrations in the UK seem to have been pretty peaceful, unlike some of the ones in America, where thugs have hijacked the cause to justify violence, arson and looting - which is only going to make things worse.

A huge number of BAME people have been risking their lives working throughout lockdown in essential but often low paid jobs where they cant socially distance as they should or whose employers have not sufficiently protected them so that we can stay home and stay safe, and panic every time someone reaches past you for carrots in the supermarket. Maybe this isn't increasing their risk that much.

And fuck off with your trite all lives matter mantra. Black lives have never been treated like they mattered, here or in the US. That is why they have to keep reminding us BLACK LIVES MATTER.

[quote nicsknackered]@LaurieFairyCake they may be mostly young but they are also mostly BAME so are massively putting themselves at risk and then everyone else that they come into contact with over the next week or so.

It's just selfish.[/quote]
They’re already at risk. Do you think there are other ways they should be protesting racism right now? Or should we just hide it again?

@Lakielady The protests aren't the problem. Social distancing needs to be followed or a lot more lives are in danger.

Racism and police brutality against black people isnt confined to just america.

By objecting to the protest, those people objecting are doing a great job of showing why the protest is necessary and justified

People object because we are in a pandemic.
I object because the very people who go on these protests are more susceptible to Covid-19.
Under normal circumstances, peaceful protests are justified, but nothing is normal right now.

OK many people can see what US Police is up to, it's definitely more tangible. It's far more difficult to grasp the effect of a microscopic virus. But don't forget that the virus is in the UK, not a bunch of US police officers

I was actually thinking about the prospect of acquittal earlier. The repercussions of such a verdict would be catastrophic.

Well there is nothing normal about generations upon generations suffering from racism. Pandemics come and go but their suffering hasn't. Just because it's not your new normal way of life doesnt mean they should sit back just for you, because you think they should

@AJGranny they'll push the theory that he died from excited delirium. Police seem to use this quite a lot.

The protests aren't the problem. Social distancing needs to be followed or a lot more lives are in danger.

Exactly this 👆 People on this post aren't understanding the issue.

MadameMarie

Yes I am aware we are not in the US

The UK police force have many times come under investigation for racism surely you are
not unaware of that

1. the police won’t be acquitted. The plan will be to give them harsh sentences then basically release them when they think things have died down enough/won’t be noticed. Makes me sick.

2. I fully understand why people wanted to protest this, and why now. And why it matters.

3. but now I think lockdown is a bit pointless and everyone may as well go back to their daily life.

I can be thick skinned btw about these things but honestly people sound very silly complaining about weddings being cancelled and 0.005% of people dying of Covid or whatever it is, in the face of a huge systemic racism issue come to the forefront due to a fucking appalling murder. One of George Floyd’s last words was “mama”. He’s someone’s baby ffs. This shouldn’t be happening.

The lockdown was pointless from day one, I think Sweden has proved that.

Well considering when you go to the supermarket people aremt keeping their distances, on beaches, on the street, in the parks.

Did you create a post for each of those social distance rules being broken? If not why not? Why specifically create a post be cause protests arent social distancing?

I’m so angry at this. What gives them the right to ruin everyone’s sacrifices? In what way do they think this dangerous activity which will possibly lead to the death of some of the activist from COVID caught at these events and putting many other people at risk will get people on their side.

The piece on the demonstrators on the news was followed by the story of a nurse who had to quarantine from her young children for 7 weeks. I know who has my support

This is not just a US issue. It's worldwide. There are big influencing factors as to why BAME are disproportionately hit by COVID. Many of them are relevant to these protests. Both those at home AND those at protest don't won't peole dying unnecessarily. This is the battle they have chosen.

@shallwedancetomojito

I don’t disagree with you there. Just think fairly unarguable now.

Yeah I'm so angry about this today. I feel like the last 2 months have been for nothing!

In what way do they think this dangerous activity which will possibly lead to the death of some of the activist from COVID caught at these events and putting many other people at risk will get people on their side

Their “side” is “don’t be racist”.

Do you need some sort of coaxing to get on board with that?! Wtf

Exactly this 👆 People on this post aren't understanding the issue.

Actually, many do, but at the same time they can acknowledge that people can make their own choices which involves doing things at their own risk. People were doing things at their own risk before this and will continue to do so. How long do you think it is going to take for a vaccine to be made, tested, and distributed? How long do you think people will be able to social distance?

I can understand being annoyed but being angry at people protesting against police brutality and racism is ridiculous. Be angry at a system that continually allows people to be seen more/less worthy due to their skin colour. Also, if you really have a bee in your bonnet over this, why not complain to your government who allowed the protest than moaning and whinging here.