London Demonstrations

[nicsknackered]

Maybe iabu I don't know but I'm so pissed off at all of the photos online of the demonstrations taking place in London today. I know why they are doing it but ffs 15,000 people in a fucking park while we are only allowed to meet in a group of 6.

My kids have just returned to school for 2 days a week in small classes with only a few of their friends, my year 6er is missing everything and should be on a PGL trip this week. My husbands business is going down the drain but 15,000 fucking people can go and mix for a demonstration?

Let's just all wait for two weeks time shall we when the hospitals are busy again and people are screaming that their relatives are dying.

I'm really angry and fed up after seeing the photos, just feel like it's never going to end and we are never going to get away from these restrictions while other people don't give a shit.

@RufustheLanglovingreindeer

Its not natural selection at its finest

As the people crowded together may well infect others

So its natural selection at its shittist

It's not natural selection, it's manslaughter.

Manslaughter.

Only on MN do you hear this sort of ridiculous talk.

Everything that PicsinRed said.

Anyone on here write to their MP or campaign/protest that it's disproportionately BAME people dying from Covid19? Did anyone contact their local health authority to ask what steps they were taking to protect BAME frontline health and social care staff who were much more likely to die? Are you just concerned now what BAME people are doing because it might impact you?

If it was 15,000 OAP's in a field there would be uproar that they were selfish and about all the hospital beds they will be taking up in the coming weeks.

My neighbours had to get a bus to to go for a Warfarin check and a lady said she couldn't believe they were allowed on the bus, what if they got ill and they should be thinking of the NHS.

But OAP’s are not beaten to death by ageist police OAP’s are not arrested or harassed by police because they are OAP’s

Fuck me the stupidity on here 🤯

Cadged animals

And you think those who are BAME want to die needlessly at the hands of the police due to their skin colour?

Sadly at this point in time, we have to look at the statistics, and it looks like you are more likely to die or get seriously ill from Corona than from the police in the UK of course, in the US, I'd take my chance

Oh yes how inconvenient it was for George Floyd to be murdered last week by racist policemen

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed

But OAP’s are not beaten to death by ageist police OAP’s are not arrested or harassed by police because they are OAP’s

Fuck me the stupidity on here 🤯

We aren't in America though

@AjGranny

Why would we write to our mp that coronavirus is affecting BAME community's more its a medical problem that was highlighted early on and the medical community have been working on it? Mps cant help with that? There are certain things mps are powerless to help

Shocked at how self absorbed some posters on her are. Showing their concern about a second wave but only because they want their kids back to school and their weekly trip to Waitrose to go back to normal.

I think most people expect their MPs to raise an issue in parliament if enough locals contact them. That's how it's supposed to work, of course MPs are worth contacting about medical services, it's paid for by the tax payer and run by the government!

Absolutely terrifying. I think we have just thrown away 10 weeks of lockdown.

@PicsInRed

And, again, so lovely of white people to be "concerned" about the health of black people.

So "concerned".

As I pointed out last night on another thread, it seems that white people can do no right for doing wrong, can they?

Isn't the whole point of the protest to change the mindset of white people? So that they have a greater understanding of the issues? And then you go and insult and offend the very people who are already onside and genuinely supportive. That is not going to achieve the desired outcome.

It terrifies me to see a crowd of that size right now but I’m white so won’t tell those affected by racism where and when they can protest against it.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/52890363

Millions of people have died over the last 400 years because of the colour of their skin.

Many more lives have been taken by racism than by covid and therefore, YABU to be angry.

Suffragettes and the IRA were bombing by the ends of their campaigns. In the end, that was what worked. Bombs. Nothing else worked.I think detractors should be grateful black people have been willing to talk and not be listened to and have been so incredibly gentle and peaceable for so fucking long.

It's not really comparable though is it? The suffragettes and the IRA were bombing for a very clear cause.

While I'll never dispute that black people face racism, they are afforded the same rights under the law as anyone else in the U.K. (With extra protections in some cases) so what on earth would they be bombing in the U.K. for? There's nothing tangible being withheld from them like the right to vote or the return of their land etc.

I support peaceful protest and understand they're marching in solidarity for George Floyd and for an end to racism btw, but suggesting we should be lucky that they're not blowing the place up is a fairly incendiary comment!

I haven't read the full thread but the first few posts are enough to make me post.

Black people are at risk every single day. I have never in my life feared being stopped and searched for no reason, being brutalised by the police or been disadvantaged because of my skin colour.

The risk to other people, well they face risks we could not dream of every single day. COVID is just another thing to add to a very long list.

And, again, so lovely of white people to be "concerned" about the health of black people.

So "concerned".

Totally agree. This thread is horrendous. Where was the concern when Extinction Rebellion were protesting during lockdown? Or is it just black people protesting you object to?

People are angry, and they are right to be angry. I 100% support the protests, regardless of whether they are happening in a pandemic - this is a really important issue. More black people have been killed or harmed due to racism and structural inequalities throughout history, and in future than will be harmed by this pandemic.

Fucking hell MN is depressingly racist.

All lives matter

Oh, that complacent meme again. Why is it so hard for some people to grasp that black people get the shitty end of the stick over and over again?

When society, all of society, values black lives as much as white lives and treats all black people with the same respect, acceptance, and consideration as white people, then - and only then - will we have reached a point where the white population doesn't have to be reminded that black lives matter.

I can remember the National Front marching in South London in 1970. I was shocked. And I remember last year EDL racists marching in Westminster last year, nearly 50 years later. Things have improved in the UK, but we still have a long way to go.

They say black lives matter but they're putting these lives at risk

There's nothing tangible being withheld from them like the right to vote or the return of their land etc.

Are you joking? To pick just one recent example - the Windrush cases. Black people with the right to live and work here, who had been in the UK since childhood, were imprisoned, denied healthcare, and deported for no crime at all.

This is at least the fourth identical goady racist thread about the protests this week.

Wtaf seriously! Your telling me its selfish of them to protest now cos of Covid, well guess what covid hasnt put a pause on black people being murdered for no reason has it.

Racism hasn't been put on hold.

I'd rather die from covid then die because I was murdered by the police for the colour of my skin.