To think the lockdown needs to end now?

[Fr0thandBubble]

I could understand a lockdown being imposed for a few weeks to make sure the NHS was up to capacity, but it’s gone well beyond that. The NHS now has lots of excess capacity and yet here we still are.

I am horrified by what has happened to our civil liberties, what it’s doing to our children’s education, what it’s doing to everyone’s livelihoods and mental health, what it’s doing to the economy, how people are not getting life-saving treatment for things like cancer, etc.

I don’t understand why people aren’t given the right to choose to self-isolate if they need to but for the rest of us to be allowed to get on with our lives and to take responsibility for ourselves.

I don’t understand why people who are not old and don’t have underlying health conditions are acting hysterically and why people have decided it’s OK to police other people’s behaviour and shout at them in the street.

I feel like I’m living in some kind of awful dystopian society.

I realise I’m in the minority here but does anyone agree with me?

[DomDoesWotHeWants]

Doesn't matter how it treats its children then?

Stupid question. Children ARE among the vulnerable. Obviously.

[cardibach]

@InfiniteSheldon

But we have saved the NHS? There is now spare capacity.

We didn’t save the NHS with lockdown so much as by letting the elderly die in care homes without much medical help at all. If they had all been in hospital there would have been a problem. Lockdown stopped lots of younger people also needing the NHS. A second wave Without lockdown will hit them.

[countchocula]

I have a lot more respect for those on the "anyone upset lockdown is ending" (not exact title) thread than those spreading misinformation and fear mongering. The motivation is the same IMO, but at least the people on that thread are self aware enough to realise.

[TrueFriendsStabYouInTheFront]

Another one to say I completely agree OP. This is getting ridiculous now. Open up, we can't hide from it, it's not going anywhere, so better to get on with it now during the summer, than wait until autumn when the NHS already struggles with the pressure of seasonal flu etc.

[ClarencesMum]

The people who want to stay in lockdown are either used to living of the state so nothing has changed, or they are in cushty little jobs that they can work easily from home.

[TimeWastingButFun]

End lockdown this close to R1?

[LesLavandes]

Those who break the rules will end up very sorry when they and their families and friends end up fighting CV plus the others they infected and of course pur economy. Pff you go.l play woth fire

[Fr0thandBubble]

@DomDoesWotHeWants I said I understood a lockdown being imposed for a few weeks to “save” the NHS, as you put it. The NHS is now running well under capacity so what the hell is going on?

If the vulnerable can self-isolate, how is it selfish for the rest of us to be allowed to get on with our lives?

In my view, more are going to die from the effects of the lockdown (mental health problems, domestic violence, people not being treated for cancer and other diseases, poverty from the inevitable recession, etc.) than from Coronavirus itself. And those consequences will affect those of all ages - not just the very old.

[ClarencesMum]

And let's stop the stupid comparisons to NZ, an island in the Pacific with a tiny population was always going have low deaths.

[LagunaBubbles]

The many (especially the young) are being sacrificed for the very few (80% of those who have died are over the average life expectancy)

Whether you mean it or not that sounds very callous.

[Bollss]

@DomDoesWotHeWants

Doesn't matter how it treats its children then?

Stupid question. Children ARE among the vulnerable. Obviously.

We are treating children like shit though?

[VideographybyLouBloom]

I completely agree with you OP. My mental health is shot. I’ve been furloughed from a job I have been at for many years, with colleagues I like and respect. I feel useless and unwanted. My children are missing their friends, school and their teachers. DH and I are missing our elderly parents. I miss normal functioning society and I can’t believe the sacrifices we have been expected to make for many weeks now.

[ClarencesMum]

Whether you mean it or not that sounds very callous

True though.

[hfrdgftcsdg]

I agree but it’s better to just rise above it, do your own thing and not get too stressed. Really exposed how in resilient the British sh public are though hasn’t it!? They’ve absolutely shit themselves and a lot have turned nasty.

[UltraTurtle]

Isn't the NHS running well under capacity because so many other services have been stopped?

[Fr0thandBubble]

@DomDoesWotHeWants

You say:

“Stupid question. Children ARE among the vulnerable. Obviously.”

But children are not vulnerable to the virus? The chance of a child being seriously affected by Coronavirus is significantly less than a child being hit by a car on the way to school.

And children’s lives are being very badly affected by this - both in terms of the immediate affect on their education, social lives and mental health but also in terms of the colossal debt they are going to be burdened with - they are the ones who will be paying for this for decades to come.

[EatDessertFirst]

I agree OP. I haven't seen my mum for five months, I am furloughed for the forseeable future and my children are miserable, missing school and their friends and falling behind in their education.

The NHS has more than enough capacity now. By all means, those who choose to stay shielded should do so, with continuing deliveries and medicsl support etc. But our ecomony is suffering, my mental health is in tatters and my relationship with my children is being damaged because I'm trying to be a teacher and failing miserably.

The fear mongering on social media and the ridiculous frothers that insist kids going back to school will kill us all has to stop. If people choose to take risks by tombstoning or gathering in large groups, fucking let them get on with it. Natural selection at its finest.

I want my life back.

[VideographybyLouBloom]

I’m also really struggling with the how we can justify the screams of “the infection and death rates are still far too high!” 164 deaths today out of a population of 60 million. How on earth can completely fucking every functioning part of our society be justified?

[Tana433]

I agree with you completely OP. Going in to week 11 of lockdown with no clear idea of when things are going to return to normal or as close as we can get to it is driving me crazy.

[Fr0thandBubble]

And by the way, my husband is in the vulnerable group - he’s in his 30s but has only one lung and is prone to pneumonia. And he absolutely agrees with my that it’s not fair what we are doing to young people with this lockdown.

[olivehater]

Totally agree op. And the ones that shout loudest about staying locked down are the ones that will be complaining about the lack of funding for the vulnerable further down the line.

[Parker231]

Now that the furlough scheme is being phased out I imagine back to normal will come soon enough when people have to go back to work.

[m0therofdragons]

Weston super mare hospital is closed due to being at capacity. You’re misinformed if you think it’s all hunky dory now.

[countrygirl99]

There are many people vulnerable to things other than covid who are being callously disregarded. The only deaths that matter, it seems, are covid.

[PixelatedLunchbox]

[quote Fr0thandBubble]@ssd It is that simple - Sweden has done it.[/quote]
Yes. Sweden has. And Sweden now has the highest death rate per capita in the world due to Coronavirus.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/18/not-romanticise-swedens-ill-prepared-adrift-coronavirus-response/