To be absolutely fucking livid

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I'm just feeling so pissed off with the British public right now. Seeing the news stories of people crammed onto beaches, stuck in traffic jams, stupid bloody tombstoners, people queuing for 3 hours plus to get into Ikea, nobody wearing masks, tourists crapping in hedges and leaving all their rubbish behind in my beautiful village - what is wrong with people?!

I realise that Coronavirus may not be as dangerous as it first appeared but it is still here, it's still killing 100's of people a day, it's still bad news for anyone overwight, over 50 or with underlying health conditions.

All these people behaving as if it's "gone away". It hasn't!

I'm livid that the government acted too little too late. We didn't close our borders, we haven't got a proper track and trace in place. We look like idiots. Now they are saying oh it's fine to have BBQ's but bring your own ketchup - for goodness sake!

I do think lockdown should be tentatively eased - as a self employed person I've been happy to start to go back to work but I'm being so so careful with hygiene and social distancing. Baby steps. I also do think people should be able to go out for a walk or see relatives so long as social distancing. But there seems to be a general mood of oh it's fine we can all just go back to normal - in fact worse than normal, let's all crowd together and have a big old party!

I'm afraid there will be a second wave due to all this irresponsible behaviour and that we will need to go back to full lockdown, putting businesses and people's health in jeopardy. I'm worried that my daughter won't be able to start uni in September. I'm worried that my neices who are doctors will have to deal with the fall out from all this. I'm worried my husband will be unable to get another job. I'm scared and depressed.

And all these fuckers ignoring social distancing are just taking risks with their own lives and everybody elses - when they visit a beach resort or other tourist place they use the toilets, use the cashpoints, visit the supermarkets or corner shop - all prime places to spread the virus far and wide.

I just don't think the message to be careful has been hammered home hard enough.

When senior Government aides are permitted and protected for wafting in and out of lockdown as they see fit, there's a certain branch of the public who'll follow suit.

It may not have been a deliberate ploy on the Governments part to bring us all out of lockdown early, but by god it's worked out beautifully for their herd immunity theory.

"If you spend 3 hours queuing to get into Ikea , you deserve all you get."

What, furniture?

I don't blame them tbh. Seems to me like the government want this to happen, or they would have issued water-tight guidelines to make sure it didn't.
Exactly this !
Remember before lockdown and were told to social distance and people went to parks because the weather was nice and everywhere shut . Papers printing pictures of 'crowds' well what did they expect the first sunny weekend of the year and of course were going to parks .
Now we can go out and yet more pictures so just upsets some people. I agree there most probably should be a distance to how far you travel for a few weeks but I can't blame people that have been home for weeks and want to go out and live not hide away at home .
I suspect it's what the government wants more people to catch it but can just say well it's your own fault .
When you've got Dominic ignoring the rules can you blame them .

It's as though over night a switch has been flicked and people think it's gone away.
In Ireland we're phasing out lockdown but the public service messages still say 'we still want people to stay home as much as possible' I have seen 4 posts in the last few days of people saying thank god it's over, we'll never forget etc. All you can do is what you want to do, and try to remember people are feeling caged, tired and despondent. I was considering just going somewhere the other day, but just caught myself in time, because in my head we need to see what happens first

@DominaShantotto

I think you're blowing things out of proportion and need to worry about your blood pressure OP.

People are ALLOWED to go to Ikea. People are ALLOWED to go to the park. People are ALLOWED to go to the beach. You might not like that but it's the truth.

Same as you're ALLOWED to sit inside your house and be unhappy.

And since the gist of your post is that you're worried that this will all stop YOUR family being able to go out and fulfil plans... you're really no less selfish than the people you're condemning.

Well said.

What, furniture?

That probably has some random name like Zoe or Petunia. Why do they name it!

People are awful

YABU as I don't think we should be blaming the public, who are merely following the example and guidelines given by the government, particularly Dominic Cummings.

I am concerned that when (not if) we have a huge second wave in this country, the government will try to blame ordinary people for eg going to the beach, when the reality is that the cause is much more likely to be down to children forced to go back to school, workers back to work, shops reopened etc, which were all decisions made by the government.

Likewise, we should be questioning why we are lifting lockdown at all while we are still at threat level 4 - that is clearly a ridiculous decision by the government.

@Staysafer The government are just prioritising the economy. Boris made a deal of talking about British common sense when he opened restrictions and he wasn't talking about doing the conga, groups getting pissed in the park and the absolute insanity of Durdle Door at the weekend.

Elements of the British public are beyond the pale when it comes to either using common sense or having any self awareness. Most followed guidelines well in initially, but the minute Boris eased restrictions it was conga lines and let's all go to the seaside. People are crazy.

It was a mistake to trust people not to take a piss. Given them an inch. There hasn't been scenes like that in Scotland and Wales where restrictions have remained.

Kids are not being forced back to school. Shops and businesses only open if safe to do so. What is awful and disrespectful is crowds of people going to the beach or parks in groups, not respecting social distancing, shitting and pissing wherever they like, causing massive destructive forest fires with their silly little bbq and cigarettes, and then think that's the fault of the government.

I think this thread just goes to show how much people aren't getting it! It's not simply a case of taking personal risk! It's fine to go anywhere as long as you can keep your distance! There are lots of examples I've seen on SM etc. of people going to beaches or parks where it is not crowded and people are able to social distance. Fantastic! Enjoy that, I'm sure that's very much needed at this stage, but to go somewhere crowded and catch something, how many people are you screwing? Its all very well saying that people who are shielding don't have to go anywhere, but what about their family members or carers? Even if they're being very careful, if other people in the wider society aren't, they are still at risk.

The rules aren't about eradicating risk, but managing it. Children need to go to school, people need to see their families and friends and be able to go places, but don't take the piss by flagrantly flouting the rules and potentially ruining it for everyone.

Elements of the British public are beyond the pale when it comes to either using common sense or having any self awareness. Most followed guidelines well in initially, but the minute Boris eased restrictions it was conga lines and let's all go to the seaside. People are crazy.

People are only 'beyond the pale' or 'crazy' if you consider that the government advice is rubbish.
People have followed the guidance during the lockdown. They are not crazy now because they are still following it! Unless of course, you are saying that they are crazy BECAUSE they are following the guidance which is a bit strange thing to say about people following the lockdown rules.....

The issue here is that YOU are assuming you know better and that the government guidelines are crazy. And that, somehow, people are supposed to known that, disregard the government advice and then do something else.
Apply that to any other area of life and you can see easily how taking decisions in your own hands because you have decided you know better could lead to a hell of a lot of trouble....

@cam2020

People just seem to lose their heads when the sun comes out and think it's holiday and party time. Especially during the weekend. The scenes on the beaches were genuinely insane on Saturday. The VE Day street parties last month the same, all because the sun was out.

I think it's a good thing the heatwave dies down this week tbh. It's like a switch that goes off in people that they have to drive to the nearest seaside when it's hot and sunny. But when the sun is in the beaches are dead. So go to the beach this weekend and it won't be that bad. It's the sheep mentality where everyone always seems to have the same idea, which in ordinary times is all well and good but you've got to exercise caution and common sense right now.

There will be a second wave. It's inevitable. But unless you stay in lockdown forever it can't be avoided. I am sure the government are aware of this.

The government have made a complete mess of the whole situation so we can all interpret the rules as we like.

@QuestionMarkNow

Anyone who turned up on a beach on Saturday or the bank holiday during the heatwave not expecting it to be packed is crazy. If you knew it was going to be packed, why go and stay there?

I don't blame people for wanting to get out the house and get in the sun but there's ways and means and common sense to be applied.

Yes Boris was stupid to suddenly let everyone travel wherever they like in England and unlimited restriction. But that doesn't excuse people pissing and shitting all over crowded beaches and then leaving mounds of litter behind. Or doing similar in the local park. It's just irresponsible.

People just seem to lose their heads when the sun comes out and think it's holiday and party time. Especially during the weekend.

But why shouldn't they if they are respecting the 2 metres social distancing and generally following the lockdown rules? The ones who say you can go to the beach?
Unless you are not allowed to have any fun at all when you are in lockdown? I didn't see that as one the rules to follow....

@madamemarie

Yes, I completely agree and I get it to an extent. Lockdown was miserable for a lot of people, the sun's out, we're re 'allowed' out so people want to do that more than they want to remember caution and the consequences their actions might have for others. The break in the weather will hopefully see a return of some common sense.

Yes
@lynsey91

it's the rubbish and littering I hate.

I wish they wouldn't bother opening up the fast food outlets if this is what happens

Why can't people dispose of their litter at home if bins are full. Dc used to come home with wrappers. Don't understand this

@QuestionMarkNow
No one is suggesting they shouldn't as long as they can social distance, we are discussing cases where people are not!

@Cam2020

I think this thread just goes to show how much people aren't getting it! It's not simply a case of taking personal risk! It's fine to go anywhere as long as you can keep your distance! There are lots of examples I've seen on SM etc. of people going to beaches or parks where it is not crowded and people are able to social distance. Fantastic! Enjoy that, I'm sure that's very much needed at this stage, but to go somewhere crowded and catch something, how many people are you screwing? Its all very well saying that people who are shielding don't have to go anywhere, but what about their family members or carers? Even if they're being very careful, if other people in the wider society aren't, they are still at risk.

The rules aren't about eradicating risk, but managing it. Children need to go to school, people need to see their families and friends and be able to go places, but don't take the piss by flagrantly flouting the rules and potentially ruining it for everyone.

To repeat my earlier point -

People who are at risk for coronavirus are generally at risk. Once this passes (which it probably won't), they remain at higher risk of death from any infectious disease that comes along.

It is not sensible to say that a lockdown or extreme social distancing measures ad infinitum are a small, singular thing that the British people can do to spare an entire generation of the elderly and infirm, which seems to be the emerging narrative. It is picking a single risk out of many, and asking that everyone throw everything at its mitigation, everything else be damned.

Anyone who turned up on a beach on Saturday or the bank holiday during the heatwave not expecting it to be packed is crazy. If you knew it was going to be packed, why go and stay there?

And why not? Beaches are ALWAYS crazy on BH weekend. I don't think people didn't expect them to be packed. I think they expected to be able to follow rules on a acked beach. Which, as far as I can see, they did. (Mainly because there is always 2 metres between people on a beach, even when it's packed. Its still the uk afterall).

No one is suggesting they shouldn't as long as they can social distance, we are discussing cases where people are not!

I have seen photos that let you think that people do not respect the 2m thansk to the angle they have been taken.
I have seen articles about packed beaches.
I have seen articles about some beaches been closed due to several accidents (which then create problems of their own).

I haven't seen articles about the police going down on a beach, fining people because they dint respect the 2m rule.
2 metre between 2 groups of peolpe is actually very little when you are on a beach.

It is not sensible to say that a lockdown or extreme social distancing measures ad infinitum

Who said anything about ad infinitum? Why can't people just follow the rules when there is an exit strategy in place to make sure we reach those well publicised milestones and move onto the next phase and out of this mess?

I understand that people at risk are always at risk and a lot of the statistics are 'people who would have died anyway soon' but its a bit shitty to expedite that because some people want a piss up or cram themselves into every inch of sand available.

Problem is. we're not 'following the science'
we Boris is playing 'what shiny exciting thing can I find today to make people forget and stop whinging about Dominic Cummings'

@Cam2020

*It is not sensible to say that a lockdown or extreme social distancing measures ad infinitum*

Who said anything about ad infinitum? Why can't people just follow the rules when there is an exit strategy in place to make sure we reach those well publicised milestones and move onto the next phase and out of this mess?

I understand that people at risk are always at risk and a lot of the statistics are 'people who would have died anyway soon' but its a bit shitty to expedite that because some people want a piss up or cram themselves into every inch of sand available.

Remember the original milestone - to give the NHS the time to prepare.

I'm always surprised that people are so quick to trivialise a normal human life outside of lockdown as 'wanting a piss up' or similar. Is that really how you see it?

And what's wrong with wanting a piss up, anyway?