Now illegal to have sex with partner you don't live with?

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Lots of newspapers/online articles announcing this today.
Being in a private place with partner and having sex can lead to a £100 fine if i've read correctly.

The world is going cuckoo.
But who cares about seeing my boyfriend, at least I can go shopping in Primark and go sit on a packed train (sarcasm)

[quote yossell]You can have sex outdoors with a lover, but not indoors at either of your houses; and it is legal to bring an escort to your house for sex, as that's necessary for work purposes. It's all very clear and logical.

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Yep. Because the two metre advice is guidance, not a legally enforceable rule. I'm just waiting for people starting to erect (ahem) special sex tents on their gardens.

@Monkeynuts18 haha thank you for twisting my words. But if children are ready to go back to school then people are ready to see loved ones.

@yossell better become his escort then

Stupid. This is going to make people go at it like rabbits. Nothing beats naughty, secret sex.

@yossell - it's always been unlawful to have sex in a public place ;-)

@TerrapinStation and @Monkeynuts18 - i assume the MP referred to is Rosie Duffield. She met up for a socially distanced walk, but I believe he also stayed over one night as well. I think I read that in the Guardian's reporting of the story. Partner now lives with her.

Interestingly, the regulations say that you are not permitted to stay overnight at a place where you do not live. Depending on how you define that, people who've moved into together for lockdown are also breaching the rules, unless it's a permanent moving in...

@Straycatstrut I can picture "Coronavirus sex kink" becoming the new 'naughty'

Which MP was that?

Do you have a link to a reliable source to confirm that?

Rosie Duffield?
She resigned, though, so not sure it's OK for MPs to do it.
None of the news reports mention sex though.

I'm just waiting for people starting to erect (ahem) special sex tents on their gardens

Interesting - apparently 'indoors' has a specific legal definition in the law

@Smilethoyourheartisbreaking it seems to be people who live with their partner who will have a go at you

Unless you have found a way of having sex whilst staying 2m apart then this has been the case since the beginning of lockdown. If you are not part of the same household you need to keep 2m apart. Many people have found this one of the tough parts of the rules, I'm sure many have broken them but its certainly not new.

However, remember that it's OK to have sex with five other people provided you do it in your garden.

@CheeseCakeSunflowers - that may have been the upshot of it, but not what the law actually said. Before, you were not allowed to leave your home without a reasonable excuse - what happened in private dwellings was not the business of the police, but the being in public. So, for example, Neil Ferguson did not break the rules - his lover did by travelling to him.

The move is now from regulation of public activity, to private. Which, regardless of what the impact of the previous regulations were, is quite a shift in terms of the reach of the State.

@deydododatdodontdeydo she went for a 5 hour walk with her married lover before you were allowed to exercise with someine from another household ( I'm sure they weren't 2 metres apart )
Then she moved him into her London flat
I'm sure they aren't playing tiddlewinks

If you don't live with your 'partner' then you can't have sex, no. Same as you can't have tea with your Mum in her kitchen. Or cuddle your nieces and nephews. Nobody is singling you out for special treatment FFS. Everyone thinks they're some sort of special case at the moment. But I'm sure the government should be writing in specific exemptions for people who want to have sex

I’m not twisting your words.

You said the government was putting the economy before mental health because the schools are going back before you can see your boyfriend.

Can you really not think of any reasons why allowing children back to school might be a greater priority than your sex life?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a massive lockdown sceptic actually. I think the cost to people’s mental health is unjustifiable. But I can see why the lockdown needs to be unwound gradually, and I can see why children’s education is vital and therefore need to come at the front of the queue. Before an adult’s sex life.

I'll just have to pay him to be my housekeeper/ escort/ cleaner/ carer/ plumber/

That's some service they give you

@chomalungma

I'm just waiting for people starting to erect (ahem) special sex tents on their gardens

Interesting - apparently 'indoors' has a specific legal definition in the law

It is! Because I am a geek, I looked into this further. 7(3)(b) of the new regs has this to say:

(b) a place is indoors if it would be considered to be enclosed or substantially enclosed for the purposes of section 2 of the Health Act 2006(a), under the Smoke Free (Premises and Enforcement) Regulations 2006(b).

And the relevant text of those regulations is:

Enclosed and substantially enclosed premises
2.—(1) For the purposes of section 2 of the Act, premises are enclosed if they—
(a)
have a ceiling or roof; and
(b)
except for doors, windows and passageways, are wholly enclosed either permanently or temporarily.
(2) For the purposes of section 2 of the Act, premises are substantially enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof but there is—
(a)
an opening in the walls; or
(b)
an aggregate area of openings in the walls,
which is less than half of the area of the walls, including other structures that serve the purpose of walls and constitute the perimeter of the premises.
(3) In determining the area of an opening or an aggregate area of openings for the purposes of paragraph (2), no account is to be taken of openings in which there are doors, windows or other fittings that can be opened or shut.
(4) In this regulation “roof” includes any fixed or moveable structure or device which is capable of covering all or part of the premises as a roof, including, for example, a canvas awning.

I guess this means it would have to be a specific type of sex tent with half the walls missing?! Fuck, could you imagine someone in court over this?

People in gardens still have to be 2 metres apart so good luck trying to have sex in your garden

Couple relationships need close contact

Except for the many ones that can’t have that - like the relationships of armed forces personnel, oil rig workers, deep sea fishermen, live in teachers at boarding schools, nannies, cruise ship employees. Not to mention the many millions of people from developing countries who have to live apart from their partner in order to provide for their families.

My grandad worked away for most of his married life because it was an economic necessity and that was before normal people even had a phone. If your relationship is strong it will survive a few months of Zooming and phone sex.

Well, it is legal to move in together...

A guy I work with hasn't seen his girlfriend for 10 weeks because she lives with her mother who is shielding

They don't even go for walks 2 metres apart and they're engaged

Sod that for a bunch of soldiers, people take the rules very literally and then wonder why they are depressed ( he's just been signed off work )