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to ask if you resent the shielded?

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BlackBucketOfCheese · 31/05/2020 18:03

I have seen a lot of people saying on MN and across social media that they now resent giving up months of their lives “to protect the shielded” as they have put it.
And that those shielded should show gratitude.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 31/05/2020 18:51

I don’t think people are angry at the shielded but what they have sacrificed for the greater good of the people, the nhs etc.
If I had lost my job, my home and my child suffered a breakdown due to this lockdown when none of our family is in the risk category I’d be annoyed too. Lockdown is not all saving on train fares, baking cakes and going on walks for people _ it is possible to be suffering without covid.

highmarkingsnowbile · 31/05/2020 18:51

A lot of people are 'shielded' at any given time due to being immuno-compromised, but the world doesn't sit at home and the economy crash because of it. Some of us just want to get back to living not sat at fucking home.

NameChange84 · 31/05/2020 18:53

*Oh so typical...all parents who dislike the lockdown because of what it's doing to their children are just lazy parents who can't be bothered to look after their kids.

Bore off.*

Actually, that wasn’t what I was implying at all. I appreciate homeschooling is not easy and “lazy parent” didn’t enter my head.

I was genuinely trying to get clarification.

You wanted schools to stay open. In my hometown there are several schools with 2000 staff and pupils on site. Given the death rate that’s around 2 deaths per school. If everyone got sick in the same period, which they would have, then it stands to reason the NHS would have been overwhelmed. Viral load is also a factor in Covid, teachers and nurses and doctors and even children would have faced higher levels of load without social distancing, making it more dangerous and also more likely to mutate.

There are no easy answers. There are children being shielded too. This situation isn’t good for anyone’s mental health.

Aretheystillasleepbob · 31/05/2020 18:54

Wise up. I’m grateful to not have a condition that meant a virus that was a minimal risk for most people could have killed me.
It wasn’t just for the shielded that we locked down, it was for our entire population.

FourTeaFallOut · 31/05/2020 18:55

It's pure scapegoating, in any other time it would be understood and challenged on those grounds. The way people carry on you'd have thought we had a secret Illuminatti - style shielded group to fuck you all over while we sat indoors watching Netflix.

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BlackBucketOfCheese · 31/05/2020 18:58

Considering more children are killed by cars than covid...how about a lockdown on all drivers?

Are there suddenly, overnight an extra number of irresponsible drivers on the road on top of those who already exist?

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BlackBucketOfCheese · 31/05/2020 19:00

Yes right - the rest of the U.K. - including kids who are extremely unlikely to die from it - have been stuck at home for no reason at all!

  1. Do you actually think that?
  2. You weren’t “stuck at home” you could leave once a day. You were never shielding.
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formerbabe · 31/05/2020 19:01

Are there suddenly, overnight an extra number of irresponsible drivers on the road on top of those who already exist

I'm making the point that we don't prioritise life above all else.

If we did, we'd ban cars, alcohol, extreme sports etc

But we balance it with the fact that people need to live their life and have a functioning economy

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 31/05/2020 19:02

You weren’t “stuck at home” you could leave once a day. You were never shielding oh yes that walk round the block- that pays the bills and keeps kids entertained after 3 months

NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 31/05/2020 19:04

I feel sorry for the shielded. I certainly dont resent them and dont know anyone who does

loubieloo4 · 31/05/2020 19:05

We have lost a huge amount of income and money has never been so tight, we have 2 university age children and one senior school child who have missed out on education/graduation.

Dh (39) however has lost so much more, he probably has less than six months to live and his last few months are looking like he will be stuck at home without seeing loved ones. If anyone thinks this is in anyway shape or from something that we want or wanted is seriously self centred. We would much prefer not to be worrying about money and spending our time making amazing memories.

Covid 19 has taken so much from us and people like us that we can never get back. Children will catch up with their education, the economy will eventually get moving, dh however will never get this time back. I would be eternally grateful if education, socialising and money were the only things we were going to miss out on.

FourTeaFallOut · 31/05/2020 19:05

It's by the by, you weren't doing any of that stuff to save the shielded, we were all indoors away from you, remember? You were asked to stay indoors to save the NHS so that it was available to the healthy and to the vulnerable who are a much, much larger group than the shielded who were asked to continue to work through this pandemic.

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BlackBucketOfCheese · 31/05/2020 19:06

I'm making the point that we don't prioritise life above all else

But that’s not what’s happened. They prioritised they NHS, not lives. The NHS deals with more than just emergency, ITU and Covid. They wanted it to still be there after.

onlyfools
I have never said that, you reading more than is there. People who locked down are commendable and god knows what any of this are going to come out of this with, it’s a disaster zone. But those who locked down aren’t shielding or 100% closed off to the world. Not that it’s a competition but it isn’t true.

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NervousInYorkshire · 31/05/2020 19:06

@FourTeaFallOut

It's pure scapegoating, in any other time it would be understood and challenged on those grounds. The way people carry on you'd have thought we had a secret Illuminatti - style shielded group to fuck you all over while we sat indoors watching Netflix.
Shhhh! Angry The first rule of secret Illuminatti - style shielded group to fuck you all over is...
atilathehut · 31/05/2020 19:06

Yes right - the rest of the U.K. - including kids who are extremely unlikely to die from it - have been stuck at home for no reason at all!

  1. Do you actually think that?
  2. You weren’t “stuck at home” you could leave once a day. You were never shielding.

This attitude is utterly ridiculous - it's not even worth commenting back tbh

bumblingbovine49 · 31/05/2020 19:07

What’s resented is people having to stay home to protect them, when all that’s required is they themselves stay home.

The vast majority of shielded people have stayed home . We have still had almost 60,000 excess deaths compared to the average of the previous 5 years. Talking about staying home to protect those who are shielding is nonsensical and a distraction. Just another way to scapegoat
and other the most vulnerable. We stayed home to reduce the number of deaths in a short time period and to stop there being scenes of people dying in corridors of hospitals which would look very bad for the government

The most annoying thing I find though is when people say,it was never to stop.the virus. Why not?. It was perfectly possible to.extinguish this virus if we had acted early enough and in cooperation but we threw our hands up immediately and said nothing could be done.

The irony is that this cowardly belief is often held by those who love to berate others for being cowardly when they agree with the measures put on place to save lives

ChoosingHim · 31/05/2020 19:08

4 pages in so this might have been brought up already but aren't the shielded protecting themselves? I know I am

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BlackBucketOfCheese · 31/05/2020 19:08

Well I think “no reason at all” is equally ridiculous.

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attackedbycritters · 31/05/2020 19:11

The shielded need to stay home. All by themselves because otherwise the people living with them also need to effectively shield unless they live in a mansion ...pity my cousin, a shielded single mum of 2

The shielded are not the ones dying now, it's the vulnerable. Around 1/3 of the population. We'd find it pretty hard to keep all them out of harms way

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 31/05/2020 19:13

But those who locked down aren’t shielding or 100% closed off to the world of course and not everyone shielding has it bad-
I worry greatly about non- covid, non- isolation issues that come out of this.

nether · 31/05/2020 19:13

I am really quite touched at the number of people who think the government introduced shielding because they were concerned about individuals' health - just as I would be if people stated they beoeved thatbfurlough and measures for the SE were introduced because they cared about household income.

It was all about protecting the NHS, and holding it together during a period of restriction. That it had self-evident personal benefits for the extremely clinically vulnerable, and those who received furlough, was of course important in making sure the policy stuck.

BruceAndNosh · 31/05/2020 19:27

@1Morewineplease

We were never put into lockdown to protect ‘ the shielded,’ we were put into lockdown to prevent the NHS from being totally overwhelmed! Oh my days!
This.

However I don't understand the government "giving permission" for those shielding to now go out. Deciding to shield is a personal decision.
They had every right to decline to shield for whatever reason, and simply observe the same lockdown restrictions as (nearly!) everyone else.
Sheilding must be incredibly hard and I would not resent anyone doing so.

GalesThisMorning · 31/05/2020 19:31

@loubieloo4 I'm sorry. That sounds really difficult Flowers

FourTeaFallOut · 31/05/2020 19:31

I noticed that in the announcement today they were careful to say that they have changed shielding advice and didn't say anything about 'allowed' this or that. I'm not sure if the BBC and the rest of the will have noted the important difference.