to ask if you resent the shielded?

[BlackBucketOfCheese]

I have seen a lot of people saying on MN and across social media that they now resent giving up months of their lives “to protect the shielded” as they have put it.
And that those shielded should show gratitude.

I agree with previous posters. @Bluntness100 you clearly really, really hate lockdown and are itching to get back out there. Cool. That's you. But most of us dont resent the shielding or the policies put in place to protect ALL OF US.

formerbabe

I am shielding and I have school aged children. I feel like greater provision could have been made for them.
I have however seen people saying it’s unfair their children miss out on their debs or just so old people don’t die. That’s more than callous.

Can I ask how the needs of your children could be better met at the same time as protecting the NHS?

I don't resent the shielded - we should shield them as long as possible and support them financially until they can get back to normal life. I do resent people who are shielded not understanding it's for their own benefit though. The 'it's to protect the NHS' is only true in so far as should it have been overwhelmed it was the shielded who were likely to suffer - as we saw in Italy. They were shielded to protect themselves and everyone else was shielded to protect them - which is exactly the right course of action.

What’s resented is people having to stay home to protect them, when all that’s required is they themselves stay home.

How long would you like me to stay at home?

@formerbabe

Are you suggesting the schools should have stayed open and hobbies, soft play etc etc?

So the virus could run rampant?

And overwhelm the NHS?

With teaching staff, doctors, nurses, paramedics, your children and everyone’s families all becoming ill during the exact same period of time?

And if so...

What’s that got to do with the shielded who have been staying home to protect the NHS?

What you’re saying is that you resent having to have your children at home to protect the NHS...right?

I don't resent the shielded. Like everyone else, I stayed at home because I was told to because the NHS couldn't cope.

Now though? Yes, for lots of reasons, those that aren't vulnerable or shielding need to get back to some degree of normality. Those that need to shield should carry on doing so.

@blackbucketofcheese

I am entirely unconvinced by the constant dialogue that we must protect the NHS. We barely used the Nightingale hospital.

Children are more at risk from traffic and knife crime. Schools should not have shut imo nor should exams have been cancelled.

It's inhumane to not allow children to socialise for several months with their peers.

I think playgrounds should be reopened and children should be allowed to meet in parks to play.

I do not. I'm grateful it isn't me, or any of the people I'm closest to. They're not collectively responsible for any poor decisions made by the government. And even so, the lockdown was never about protecting them in the first place.

To add insult to injury, calling them 'The Shielded' makes them sound a bit like 'The Infected' AKA Danny Boyle's 28 Days Later!

What you’re saying is that you resent having to have your children at home to protect the NHS...right?

Oh so typical...all parents who dislike the lockdown because of what it's doing to their children are just lazy parents who can't be bothered to look after their kids.

Bore off.

I’ve seen nothing like this. In fact I think this thread is a bit suspect to be honest.

In any case I actually feel sorry for the shielded. My neighbour is one. We speak over the fence. She feels very upset about Cummings because she knew people would follow his lead and put her at risk. Now they’re saying she should go out despite the scientists saying it’s too early. She feels as though she’s disposable. As a woman in her mid 70s who is quite patriotic, she feels shafted and bitter about how this has all played out. She feels hurt and betrayed and I don’t blame her.

My best friends father had a life saving organ donation after years nearly dying. So I’m happy to know my efforts are keeping him and many more safe.

everyone else was shielded to protect them

No one except the shielded have had to shield...

If no one social distanced and we all went around as normal, doctors, nurses and carers would have all got sick with coronavirus during the same time period. Who would then care for those needing ventilators? Who’d help those who had a heart attack or stroke? Or those giving birth? Or children needing emergency operations?

Have you forgotten how many nurses, doctors and other care workers have already died from Covid? It would have been much, much worse if the non-shielders didn’t social distance and stay home when they were asked to.

No not at all.

However if we went in to another lock down I think feelings would change. People have lost businesses, jobs, money, homes and I think it will be a bit too much to expect them to protect the shielded again when their own lives are crumbling.

I’ve seen nothing like this. In fact I think this thread is a bit suspect to be honest.

Then you haven't been looking. It has been rife.

That’s interesting. It has been very difficult for my children too, it’s hard old slog.

I believe the Nightinggale hospitals weren’t used to full capacity because people stuck to the lockdown at a far higher rate than the government truly expected or hoped.
My DH works in an field that would have been redeployed there and they were set to do so, in our region, until a fortnight ago.

Considering more children are killed by cars than covid...how about a lockdown on all drivers?

We'd save children's lives right?

Can you imagine the uproar...

I’m shielding along with a very sick husband and 2 young adult children home from university. We’re all shielding because we live in a normal house where there isn’t the room to socially isolate from each other.
We’ve been inside since March 21st. Didn’t know I should be grateful.

How long would you like me to stay at home?

how ever long you feel is necessary.

I’ve seen nothing like this. In fact I think this thread is a bit suspect to be honest.

It is increasing with every day.

Resent people who have cancer, have had organ donations?

What kind of low life would do that?

I can't believe this is even a question. Many of the people shielding have health conditions through absolutely no fault of their own jus you're bad luck. On top of what must be already difficult circumstances (cancer for example!) they've now got coronavirus to worry about. For people to be saying they resent them is abhorrent.

People were not required to lockdown to protect the shielded. The shielded were put out of the way first to stop the predicted clutter up of ventilators since they were the group almost certainly likely to dominate them - and at this point the UK had stories coming out of Italy about drs having to make terrible choices about who out of a group of patients got the one ventilator available.

Everyone else was locked down to prevent the NHS being completely overwhelmed and awful things happening such as we've seen in other countries. Even with that, we've managed the worst death rate in Europe.

Surely that should tell you, the government give no craps about the shielded, or the vulnerable, or anyone really. Preventing deaths has never been high on their radar; preventing scenes out of some B horror movie with a pandemic going completely out of control when they realised how fast it was spreading, yes, more that.

No one except the shielded have had to shield

Yes right - the rest of the U.K. - including kids who are extremely unlikely to die from it - have been stuck at home for no reason at all!

It's always Bluntness. Every fucking thread.

Bluntness, you did not stay home to protect me. You stayed home to protect the NHS from being overwhelmed, and yourself.

It's always Bluntness. Every fucking thread.

Isn't it just?