To think that whitty and vallance did not seem to agree with Boris today

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Interested to know if it's just me who thought their presentation and the way in which they answered questions today suggested that they were opposed to Johnson easing lockdown. He spent ten minutes saying how much progress we have made and how we are in a good position and then they seemed to basically contradict this completely and say that things are still bad, the numbers are still high, r is almost 1 already etc.

So aibu to think they would orefer it if lockdown continued?

People do not seem to understand that there are sort of two stories here - the R rate & mortality rate in the general non vulnerable population, and that of care homes etc

The two are very much linked, we cannot keep care homes in some sort of bubble with an increasing R rate driven by 8000 daily community (not hospital or care home) infections, people in the community work and have contact with care homes.

Its also very cruel to deny care home residents and their families contact with each other, let alone as they lay dying.

They should have built Care Homes, not Nightingale hospitals, where a Care Home patient could be isolated there and family could visit them (all gowned and masked) then there wouldn't be this sad story of them dying alone.

Hindsight's a wonderful thing.

Professor John Edmunds of SAGE severely criticising the decision to relax lockdown even further as an obviously political one to try to distract from the Cummings scandal.

Also just heard Professor David King, who founded 'Independent Sage', stating that the government has clearly NOT 'followed the science', particularly in recent days, and that he hopes Vallance will start to make this clear.

I wonder if it's because as other countries open up - Germany, Spain -that they will get all the business, leaving the Uk in even more of an economic decline than otherwise. People complaining about a reduction in self isolation and wanting to continue it, risk the UK being the worst set up one post CV19. Lufthansa for example being subsidised by the German Gov. They will pick up the flights that would have gone to BA and Heathrow. If we hit an economic disaster there won't be the money for mental health care/ care homes whatever - after this.

Yes I imagine the economic pressures are coming in to play.

I would hope it’s that over political decisions around distraction (as in pp)