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AIBU to think is incredibly rude to ask women when they are going have a baby?

115 replies

FucksBizz · 27/05/2020 19:15

DH and I can’t have children. We have had multiple painful losses over the last three years and medical science doesn’t seem to quite stretch to solving the problem. We cannot face the trauma any more and have decided that we will never have children. I don’t think this is anyone’s business but ours, but still, I am asked this awful question with tedious regularity. I have started responding with a blunt ‘we can’t, but thanks for asking!’ but I guess this is something that I will asked again and again throughout my life.

AIBU to think that you should NEVER ask a woman when she’s going to have children?

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FucksBizz · 27/05/2020 19:16

Just noticed a typo in the title!

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ChikiTIKI · 27/05/2020 19:17

You're totally right.

It definitely doesn't fit in to the category of small talk, that's for sure.

I'm sorry for your losses and also for your rude friends.

Annabk · 27/05/2020 19:17

YANBU Flowers

SachaStark · 27/05/2020 19:18

I absolutely agree with you. Figure if those of us who are child-free/childless keep replying in such a way as to signify how bloody awful the question is, maybe everybody will eventually be trained out of asking it.

otterbaby · 27/05/2020 19:18

Yes, very rude. And very nosy. I think your answer is absolutely fine, maybe it'll make them reconsider asking such a personal question in the future. I'm sorry for your losses Daffodil

Aquamarine1029 · 27/05/2020 19:18

I agree with you completely. Someone's reproductive plans are off limits unless they are brought up by them first. I had some fucking idiot ask me when I was going to have another baby when my first was five days old. As if she were entitled to know! It's infuriating.

Carravaggio · 27/05/2020 19:22

This infuriates me. I have 2 DC and had no trouble conceiving but I have very close friends who are affected by this insensitive and cruel question.

One friend cannot conceive naturally with multiple failed IVF.
One married friend does not want children. Her reasons are her own.
One friend has had a traumatic previous birth with PND directly linked to the ptsd that she suffered.
One friend has a DC and has a MC after. She cannot TTC again as her heart is broken.

I know these details as they are my friends. If you’re not close enough to know personal details then never ask such a rude question.

OP there should be an equally hurtful question that you are allowed to ask in return. Like ‘did you bang your head or where you born with no manners?!’

Elouera · 27/05/2020 19:26

Having TTC 9yrs and just had my 3rd MC, I understand. Friends and family used to ask in the early days after marriage, but no one does now. I think random people casually ask about kids, as they assume that the vast majority my age have at least 1. (hair dresser, nail lady etc to make small talk). Unless you have suffered infertility and multiple losses, people that have had a family easily have no clue. I certainly done think they ask to be cruel, they just have no concept that someone who dearly wants a child, physically cant have one.

FucksBizz · 27/05/2020 19:28

‘Did you bang your head or where you born with no manners?!’

I am so adding that to the list of responses! Grin

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RainbowGlittersandSparkles · 27/05/2020 19:28

Absolutely people still ask my Aunty, she’s been married over 10 years and is nearly 50. They tried and couldn’t and it’s hurtful to be asked all the time.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 27/05/2020 19:29

Sorry for your losses. It's rude and weird.
I started a new job in my early 30s and was asked if I had children, no I replied...her follow up was what's wrong with you? Once I'd picked my jaw back up, I may have been ever so slightly rude. I can't imagine how painful it would have been to have been asked in front of a bunch of new colleagues if we had been trying to conceive/diagnosed with infertility/going through IVF.

zscaler · 27/05/2020 19:29

It is never an acceptable question and I can’t think why anyone ever thinks it’s ok to ask it.

I’m so sorry for your losses Flowers

EveryoneLoves09876 · 27/05/2020 19:31

I agree and I'm very surprised people still ask this!

Littleyellowfootball · 27/05/2020 19:31

Completely agree. I would also add ‘are you going to have another?’
For some people it’s not possible.

OtterBe4 · 27/05/2020 19:31

It is very rude, my eldest DD gets married next year yet ppl say 'oh have they not had a baby yet?' (she's 26)
No, there's more to her than a baby machine and usually get eye rolls when I say she's concentrating on her career.
Too many folk stuck in the 1950s.

Samster45 · 27/05/2020 19:32

I have one and I am always asked about when I am going to have another. The comments range from that she must be lonely without siblings, or she will be spoilt when she’s older to she’ll be by herself looking after her parents in old age which is cruel for her.

In fact I can’t have another due to medical complications after having her.
I know I am very lucky to both have her and be alive, but it grates that they spew all these negative things about how she can’t possibly love being an only child and must be having a terrible lonely childhood without thinking.

I generally just respond with I can’t have another and leave it at that which invariable is followed with the question why (which makes me even angrier). Do they not think that I haven’t already agonised over not being able to give her a sibling , the downsides that everyone sees to being an only child? That she may be lonely? I find that people are just nosey to the point of being cruel. In fact I’m luck in the sense that my DD has never wanted siblings and really doesn’t mind being an only child but that’s not the point

Likethebattle · 27/05/2020 19:34

I hear you, we can’t and it hurts, you get people saying ‘have you never wanted children?’
My mother ‘are you going to get a move on and make me a grannie?’
One colleague said at a function ‘don’t mind battle she hates kids’ as her and someone ended discussed their children. I actually felt so upset. I don’t hate children I want them badly but we can’t.

I usually tell the truth to shame them ‘after 7 miscarriages it’s not going to happen really is it now?’

Twigletfairy · 27/05/2020 19:35

Totally agree.

My husband asked some friends just after they got married. I didn't even wait for a response, I immediately told my husband not to be such a rude arse. He apologised to the couple and they were fine about it. He didn't even think about, it's only when we talked about it later that he realised why it's so rude.

The thing is, it's such an intrusive question. So even if you put aside how sensitive an issue it is, I don't understand why people want to be so I intrusive

RenegadeMrs · 27/05/2020 19:35

I agree completely. People are thoughtless and don't realise the pain this can cause, especially if they've never faced infertility or miscarriage.

I'm sorry that you have to face this. It is so unfair.

DDIJ · 27/05/2020 19:36

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2007Millie · 27/05/2020 19:36

I will go against the grain here and say it doesn't bother me at all.

In fact I often turn it around and use it as a positive to inform people about fertility issues

I was told I would never have children/infertile etc until DS came along as a huge surprise 18 months ago.

I was asked prior to him when I would be having children, and I get asked now when we will be having the next one.

It really doesn't bother me at all.

Candyfloss99 · 27/05/2020 19:38

It's extremely rude. As rude as asking a woman when the baby is due. (This happened to me and I wasn't pregnant, I was bloated after eating a pizza).

peperethecat · 27/05/2020 19:40

Sorry for your losses OP. I'm in the same boat, but we are still trying. Flowers

Can't imagine who voted YABU.

Likethebattle · 27/05/2020 19:41

another one wax when o turned 30 and oblivious male colleague kept saying ‘oh you better get a move on!’ FUCK OFF maybe you should get a move on and get a girlfriend.

FucksBizz · 27/05/2020 19:41

In fact I often turn it around and use it as a positive to inform people about fertility issues

Whilst I’m glad that you don’t find the question upsetting, I don’t want to discuss my fertility issues with acquaintances. Infertile women are not responsible for educating idiots.

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