Would you rather people who voted Tory or don't absolutely hate the Government just stayed silent on threads?

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As it seems pointless bothering on Mumsnet any more.

Personally I'm a bit sick of being called a bot because I voted Conservative.

There are a lot of threads with pained titles asking people to explain why they voted Tory/don't hate Boris Johnson etc but when it comes down to it noone is at all interested and it's just an excuse for a pile on.

YANBU - No, keep posting as I like to see both sides of an argument, I don't think you are a bot!

YABU - Yes, please just keep any Tory voting or opinions to yourself.

Cummings openly advertised for 'an online army' of bots, and they have been appearing on here and elsewhere (SM) posting identical statements.

And they always claim to be either nurses or lawyers.

I don't like this government and I didnt particularly like Corbyn.
What I can't bear is the 'I'm always going to vote x and I'll always defend x' despite everything.

Loyalty is a quality to be admired, until it becomes overdone and then it's a character flaw.

I'm friends with people I disagree with. I think people should keep posting but the quality of the arguments are often really poor.

To say the government is doing a decent enough job when our death rate is so high, even when adjusted for population size, is not a great argument. The 'do you think you could do better? 'isn't either.

And if this is a 'decent enough job' what would a bad one look like?

Not a Tory, but I do like Sunak. Then again he's being rather socialist at the moment...

Conservative victimhood and desperation to appear as the outsider is also pathetic. You are the status quo, the one in which the 6th richest country in the world has up to 30% child poverty.

ThePlantsitter I'm the same. I strongly dislike our government, but a pandemic where hundreds are dying daily I'm totally willing to back them in doing what needs to be done to stop people dying.
I have no time for the 'we don't need no experts' people who think an infographic on Facebook gives them equivalent knowledge as someone who has devoted a career to science.

But our government are ignoring the science and many are showing utter contempt towards the British public. They are failing in their duties of public office.

Sunak's had the easy job so far. Let's see what happens next.

The death figures are falling sharply though. The government strategy seems to be working.

I think London should have been locked down earlier than the rest of the country.

I don't think the media have done themselves many favours during this crisis, which I am sorry about as I am a newspaper addict and definitely think the government needs to be held to account. However, the main stream tv journalists have been mediocre in the extreme. I thought Matt Hancock's dismissive answer to Peston today was great

I thought Hancock’s answer to Peston was dismissive and rude. There’s clearly some history there.

Yes absolutely. It was a bit rude but Peston drives me demented so I didn't mind.

YANBU in that everyone should have a voice whatever their political persuasion. I haven’t ever voted Tory but I did consider doing so at the last election for the very reason that the left have a current tendency to shut down speech on a “moral” basis and I don’t like this behaviour. Although I did not vote Conservative I was generally supportive of their handling of the C19 crisis up until the DC affair. I just can’t understand the reasoning/logic behind those defending him. It’s not the act itself but the dishonesty following the act that makes it serious in my mind. But all to their own logic. I would definitely carry on putting your viewpoint out there though.

The death figures are falling sharply though. The government strategy seems to be working.

How fortuitous. Hopefully someone, somewhere, working on these figures, could lie straight in bed. I'm increasingly cynical as to the propaganda.

I get news mostly from R4 and have found the morning interviews increasingly frustrating with interruptions and trying to catch people out.

I thought it good when MH showed his frustration at being interrupted yet again.

I’m pretty much ok with decisions so far. It’s been a bit of a shambles but there’s only two ways, through it or close off to the rest of the world I.e. NZ. We couldn’t close off like that.

Japan has done well, I like hearing about other countries on R4.

The 111 turning blue thing was bad but hopefully very small incidence.

I have a grudging respect for Matt Hancock, despite laughing at Charlie Brooker's description of him as "your sister's first boyfriend with a car". What a bloody tough job and he's coped well.

I do not like or have any respect for Priti Patel.

Why couldn’t we close the borders? Easiest thing in the world on an island.

Also when would you have done it and how long for?

Probably about the same time Trump did it. Until it was contained and death rates were in double figures.

i am sick to bloody death of the media thinking they can dictate who is or isn't in the cabinet.

Last time I checked this wasn't the media's job and they weren't doing it.
Also last time I checked, DC cannot be in the cabinet as he wasn't elected.

But please do expand; I'm willing to be educated.

Trump’s decision hasn’t kept their figures low has it?

No it hasn’t because their lockdown has been non existent.

Non existent in NYC?

Sorry not feeling very reasonable today - I’ve posted more today than in my entire life - Incandescent with rage I think it’s called.......

I dont think people should be censored on their opinions. I'm not a diehard Tory or Labour supporter, I tend to vote on policy and who I think would see the country through. Having said that the issue I have with this whole DC debacle is the message it sends to the public myself included if there is no clear line on what is expected or not. I've been supportive of the government up until how the DC situation has been handled, feel like if he had resigned initially at the start of the weekend without dragging up the semantics of it all and what was reasonable and what wasn't. Its just been a colossal waste of time and political energy. I'm just very disillusioned and disheartened, feeling like I can't trust the government. I do love the member of the public who asked if the fines for those that have moved children across the lockdown would be rescinded.

The death figures are falling sharply though. The government strategy seems to be working.

That's ok then. Let's not think of all the people who have already died.

UK has highest number of deaths.