Would you rather people who voted Tory or don't absolutely hate the Government just stayed silent on threads?

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As it seems pointless bothering on Mumsnet any more.

Personally I'm a bit sick of being called a bot because I voted Conservative.

There are a lot of threads with pained titles asking people to explain why they voted Tory/don't hate Boris Johnson etc but when it comes down to it noone is at all interested and it's just an excuse for a pile on.

YANBU - No, keep posting as I like to see both sides of an argument, I don't think you are a bot!

YABU - Yes, please just keep any Tory voting or opinions to yourself.

another London centric, anti Brexit, human rights lawyer. That's going to win back the heartlands.))

They voted for Johnson, very wealthy public school educated, Bullingdon Club member. Starmer who actually comes from an ordinary background (and appears competent) is far more likely to be able to relate to Northerners than Johnson. He also chose to go to university in Leeds.

They voted for Johnson because of Brexit. If that's the disaster which looks likely, they will abandon the Tories.

There’s even more lefty bullshit around than usual, and given how even at normal times we’re up to our necks in the stuff, it’s pretty unpleasant.

I voted Tory in the last Election. I used to vote Labour under Blair and have even voted for Lib Dems in the past. Last election, both labour and Lib Dem's were unpalatable to me, so Tory it was.

I also have a close friend who is a Senior Tory MP. I'm a professional artist. Most of my peers a hugely vocal left-wingers. I have never even mentioned I'm friends with a real life Tory MP who I actually, you know....like.

I liked Boris (ish). I was glad he won the election. Relief was more the emotion for me though.

I think he's handled this crisis pretty badly, so have many cabinet ministers. Looking around the world I don't think he's unique in this (Merkel aside). The Furlough scheme has literally saved many of my friends. It's a long way to the next election and I'm not saying I wouldn't vote Tory again.

Like you PP, I'm finding it hard to muster up intense hatred of D.C. Stay, go.....I don't care that much.

I assume the majority of people on here are Tory voters, if not going so far perhaps as being members of the party.
I'm always interested to read what different viewpoints are out there.

And for the record I think a Corbyn government would have handled this pandemic better, at least in respect of their way of dealing with key workers, and the messaging to the poor, vulnerable and disadvantaged.
I think this is why the Cummings episode angers me so much, to me it has become even more abundantly clear that the government don't care about what the general public think, they are not here to serve us, but to instead further their own agenda, and they don't give a shit.

I don't believe Tory voters think that way, or most of them anyway, so I'm interested to read how they do think.

outrage fatigue ! Brilliant!

I felt so annoyed when Johnson did his conference, incredulous to the point of laughing, but it dissipated when DC did his.

He sounded less arrogant than I imagined and I recognised his character from people I worked with in same type of job. Some of it doesn’t add up but I do think he’s a stickler for what the rule said. That pretty much hardly anyone read.

I did vote Tory in the last election. I have no liking or respect for the government and am nit ideologically it politically in line with their policies or the party ethos (I voted for the lesser of two evils). But what I dislike even more than the Conservative party is the sheer lunacy surrounding coronavirus. Especially this Dominic Cummings business. I don’t understand why anyone gives a shit.

Also despite many saying DC is bad at his job I think he is very good at it.

I thought he sounded very polite and I probably would have done the same thing in his position. Maybe that's why I cant muster up hatred. I also think the press and activists have behaved appallingly outside his house.

another London centric, anti Brexit, human rights lawyer. That's going to win back the heartlands.))

This always gets trotted out. Johnson is very much part of elite and further out of people’s reality.

@StarbucksSmarterSister that’s very hopeful of you. If there’s one thing I’ve learned during my time in Britain is that the one thing the lower classes hate more than posh people born with a silver spoon in their mouth is the people that actually worked hard and became successful, even more so when they’re not ethnically British.

See? This is exactly why people get pissed off with you.

Why, it's just a question? I genuinely don't think anyone else we have at the moment, in any of the parties, could have handled it any better. I think there are a fair few who would have handled it much worse.

And for the record I think a Corbyn government would have handled this pandemic better, at least in respect of their way of dealing with key workers, and the messaging to the poor, vulnerable and disadvantaged

I think I might agree with you about the messaging but not the key workers who have been treated well IMO.

Also despite many saying DC is bad at his job I think he is very good at it.
Hasn’t he gone back and edited his blog post to look like he talked about this pandemic specifically? That is truly abhorrent. And seriously incompetent too because it looks like he thought he can do it without anyone noticing it. And this is a guy who is supposed to be adovising how to run our country.

to me it has become even more abundantly clear that the government don't care about what the general public think

That sounds to me like you are having your bias confirmed.

Boris Johnson is a populist. He very much cares what the general public thinks and he clearly cared about it more and understood it better than Corbyn's Labour, because they recently won a decisive election victory.

The Cummings scandal is interesting because Johnson wants to keep him when politically it would be much smarter, and more popular, to get rid of him.

I think having an authoritarian left wing government managing a lockdown would have been terrifying. It's bad enough with a populist in charge. Thankfully that populist needs the support of the Tory party, so he will have to release us even when there is a lot of vocal public support for continued rights infringement.

I don't care. Post or don't post as you please. I get tired of people complaining that theirs is a minority view, though. The main politics group I follow on reddit has daily whining about the place being a left wing echo chamber and that it's unfair they get downvoted, and a lot of politics threads on this site are full of complaints that right wing views are not generally supported on here, and I always think, so? What's the problem? It would be like me hanging out in a right leaning forum and whining about my views not being widely agreed with there. You have every right to speak, but you don't have a right to be agreed with.

The Cummings scandal is interesting because Johnson wants to keep him when politically it would be much smarter, and more popular, to get rid of him

I think he wants to keep him because he realises that he's (DC) very good at his job.

I think complaining about someone as a potential PM because they were a human rights lawyer is hilarious. How terrible, thinking humans should have rights.

You have every right to speak, but you don't have a right to be agreed with

I don't want to be called names or told, even in a roundabout way that I am nasty. Maybe I'm still smarting from being called a child murderer before the GE!

I very much disagree that Labour under Corbyn would have handled it better. The most pressing issue is the balance of the health emergency and the economy. Sunak has held his end up well and my relief at it not being Corbyn is there.

Starmer is a different story. He is clever enough to avoid some clangers but depends on who he has around him.

Covidicus ah yes the old "he's got above himself". You're right of course, I find all the forelock tugging mentality by some working class to be utterly bizarre and I come from a working class background myself. It's an amazingly Victorian attitude. Of course maybe I too have got above myself?

I have to be hopeful. If not then I should pack my bags and go, but this is my home and I have to hope things improve

And this is a guy who is supposed to be adovising how to run our country.

He is very good strategic advisor. He wins the seemingly un-winnable. Johnson kept him because he needs that and it worked (still works).

I think he wants to keep him because he realises that he's (DC) very good at his job.

NO it's becausr Cummings knows a big secret

He must think that Cummings is as good as irreplaceable, because I don't have the impression that Johnson is especially loyal.

I'm extremely anti-Tory in every respect but I'd still vote yanbu as I think everyone is entitled to their own political views. I have no idea what a 'bot' (does it mean robot?) is and the concept of calling anyone that or any other name is a completely alien concept to me.

Yanbu op.

The Labour bots do a good job on here to get the froth, hysteria and outrage whipped up at every opportunity. Unless MNHQ come out and say this site is for left wingers only, I shall continue to post my opposing view, irrespective of being called such delights as Tory scum or someone wanting to spit on all Tories. It shows to me their level of desperation and impotence since the Labour party was slaughtered at the election. They are powerless, all that's left for them are words and we all know about sticks and stones.