To hope this racist woman loses her job

[TildaKauskumholm]

twitter.com/melodyMcooper/status/1264965252866641920?s=19. Was appalled to see this video on Twitter - a guy in Central park, NYC, who was birdwatching, politely asked a woman to put her dog on the lead as per the regulation in that part of the park. He started filming it as she got abusive and called the cops, to say that she (white) and her dog were being threatened by an African-American man and could they send the police (as we know this can often result in a shooting).All the while she was holding her dog up by dangling it from its collar, half strangling it. The man left and his sister put the video on Twitter, resulting in the racist dog strangler being identified very quickly... she has a high powered job with an insurance company. The animal shelter took back the dog, and her company says she is on 'administrative leave' hopefully meaning she will get fired. I was really shocked and dismayed that such open racism is still going on, even though she was being filmed! Surely she must lose her job at least, what company would want to be linked to something like this?

Saying white people are also the victims of racism is just a stopover on the way to Klansville.

Seriously, people. Stop fucking saying this.

(Oops meant to tag @VladmirsPoutine sorry @sauvignonblancplz)

Honeybee, I'm sorry for your experiences, but you must see this is a completely different context to the one we are discussing here. Context matters.

Racism against other groups can go in its own thread surely?

If this thread was just about her treatment of her dog, and how common it was for people to hold dogs on leads like that, and appropriate use of leads, and I posted about people being cruel to rabbits or greyhounds, wouldn't I look a bit like a weird spammer?

Which posts upset you pixiefringe?

@Pixiefringe @Honeybee85 I'm sure those experiences must have been awful but let me repeat it again: White People Cannot Experience Racism.

@dreamingbohemian

I react to a poster saying white people can not experience racism by describing my own experiences with this.
I don't see how this is out of context.
I read the whole thread and I see racism being discussed as a whole and not purely in the context of what happened in NY.
Surely I can react to that

When people pretend not to understand me when I am speaking the local language to them, even when I clearly say something very simple such as no thank you. And the worst of all my mother in law ignoring my baby son because he is half white and not fully Asian as her other grandchildren. She doesn't like white people

OK, that's horrible, granted, but it's not exactly remotely comparable, is it?
(I say this as a white woman myself)
People pretending to not understand you, and your MIL ignoring your baby, annoying yes.
You presumably don't feel threatened just being out being you though?
Just merely existing?
It's just not the same.

Oh I hadn't realised that white people can't experience racism.

Glad you now know. Pick up a history book or two then look have a look at white supremacy. Have a quick glance at colonisation. Just anything really and yes let me repeat it again: White People CANNOT Experience Racism.

Ok so my MIL ignoring my baby because he is biracial is not racism?!

I think you need to rethink your definition of racism.

Lemonade, in Asia you are a minority ethnic group so could experience racism in those circumstances.

One of the more troubling things about this incident is that it appears that the woman was attempting to take advantage of the structural racism that black people face, by threatening to call the police and specifically tell them that an African American man had threatened her.

This is different from run of the mill bigotry. I agree that people of all races can hold racist views, but it is when those racist views are combined with power that the result can be particularly dangerous.

This is different from run of the mill bigotry. I agree that people of all races can hold racist views, but it is when those racist views are combined with power that the result can be particularly dangerous

Agree with this

I think you need to stop making this thread on how hazardous life is for black men in America about you and your family dynamics with your MIL.

White People Cannot Experience Racism.

I would say that I have experienced racism as a white person, but only when other white people have mistakenly thought that I was another race. I don't think that is common though.

I think you need to rethink your definition of racism.

I'm mixed race and have worked extensively on racism. Don't even start with this nonsense about me needing to rethink it.

I understand why white women always centre their perceived pain and anguish.They can't stand not being the centre of attention. They are always weaponising their tears and fragility. In this thread we are talking about a white woman who could have got a black man killed and some white women want to now shed tears about their own struggles. Honestly, do one. Who teaches you lot this stuff - is there some secret Karen code?

@Honeybee85 I'm Asian in the UK and have experienced racism (called a P*, people assuming I don't speak English well when I have a degree in it etc), and no matter how hurtful it is, at least I know that I'm not going to be shot by police. I will not belittle the black person's experience in the US by comparing my situation to theirs.

@PotholeParadise

Sigh. You really don't get it do you.
I am simply using a personal example to state why I think racism against white people does exist.

But I see so much anger, resulting in hostility on this threat from posters like you and others towards anyone who dares to have a different opinion then you that it has become impossible to have a normal discussion.

Imagine - that's such a white woman thing to do - accuse me (a WOC) of needing to rethink racism AND have the gall to compare their issues with their MIL to that of a black man in the U.S who had his life threatened by a white woman. This shit really writes itself.

Ok so my MIL ignoring my baby because he is biracial is not racism?!

I think you need to rethink your definition of racism.

I think you need to learn the difference between racism and prejudice.

Prejudice, which you experienced from your MIL, is a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.

Racism is prejudice + power. This video was a perfect example of that. The woman held a prejudicial view of the man because he was black, and she threatened to use the mechanism of an institutionally oppressive state against him. She had the power to do that, because as a white woman who benefits from racism in America, she knew that she would be believed and protected by the police, even though she was the aggressor in that situation.

Your MIL may have been prejudiced against your baby because of race, but you were not the victim of an entire system designed to subjugate your race for the benefit of other people. That is the huge and significant difference.

And it isn’t just a matter of whether you are a minority race in any particular place. Whiteness is protected the world over.

White women want to be oppressed so badly. No one has it harder than them. Honestly, their levels of entitlement know no bounds.

White people should not be defining what racism is.

How is this not obvious.

@VladmirsPoutine

I see from all your posts a lot of anger towards white women. I am sorry you appearently had such bad experiences in life that you've become so hostile now towards a demographic group as a whole.

Whiteness is protected the world over.

This. Whiteness is revered all over the world. Admiration of proximity to whiteness is seen in Asia, Africa and indeed expressed by white supremacists. Just because one or two people dislike you because you are white does not mean anything in the wider scope of GLOBAL white privilege.

I see from all your posts a lot of anger towards white women. I am sorry you appearently had such bad experiences in life that you've become so hostile now towards a demographic group as a whole.

Given how hostile you have been on this thread - minimising a woman of colour’s experiences, telling her she needs to learn about racism, and centering your own experiences in a thread which is in no way related to them - it’s hardly surprising you’re not getting a warm reception.