If you were annoyed at Dominic Cummings before

[NoMoreReluctantCustodians]

How has his performance in the rose garden affected your opinion?

YANBU it's made things worse
YABU its cleared things up for me

Goes to show how crap the 'advice' is that after nearly 3 months people are STILL not clear on what they should do if they've got symptoms!

It's such a dysfunctional relationship. They are messing up and have not handled Coronavirus at all well at top level government, so why the fuck do they think they need Cummings? It's sinister.

Well this could all be part of a devious plot to get more of the plebs out rebuilding the economy - and contributing towards herd immunity. If there isnt a second wave that will probably be the claim anyway.

Well the 'Cummings effect' is certainly not helping compliance to the guidelines and the increasingly desperate pleas from the medical advisors for the public to act sensibly & responsibly. As ever the people who are damaged most by all this are those that least deserve to be while the top dogs are untouchable - it's tantamount to shouting screw you & sticking their fingers up to the public as they throw out all the stops to protect one of their own. We deserve accountability at the top - inquiry, resignation, dismissal or apology - still waiting...

This is interesting - Professor Martin McKee, scientist named above, set up and ran grassroots campaign, 'NHS for a People's Vote' - he is also on the advisory board of pro-EU campaign group 'Scientists for EU' - they have a link to 'Labour for a European Future' (originally 'Labour for a Public Vote') -

"We work with Labour members and supporters to win a radical Labour government and stop the Tories’ disastrous Brexit going ahead."

Rosie Duffield MP is a member of the steering group.
Brexity tit-for-tat:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52867324
www.laboureuropeanfuture.org/
www.nhsforpv.co.uk/core_team
www.scientistsforeu.uk/advisory_board

Brexity tit-for-tat is not what this is about though, is it?

This is about the PM's Senior Aide breaking lockdown and the Prime Minister refusing to sack him.

I told you yesterday the reason that I am still upset is because I have (and continue to) stay away from my distressed Mum 200 miles away while she grieves alone for my Dad as I follow Government guidelines. Instructions that the Covidiot Cummings issued with the Government.

The only tit in this is Cummings and your political posturing is the tat!

Brexity tit-for-tat is not what this is about though, is it?

Quite a lot of it is.

Mumratheevergiving
Dominic Cummings' mother was also grieving - her brother died from, or with coronavirus on the 5th April - DC was spotted 'outside' her property that day - I assume it wasn't her birthday party, despite a rumour that it was - that would be an unlucky coincidence.

"Mrs Cummings told the New Statesman: "My brother, Dominic’s uncle, died on Palm Sunday...You know, we have been grieving as a family, and there's been no recognition of that, and I wish reporters would be cognisant of that fact."

I feel sorry for anyone that has lost anyone to this disease and at this time. Wasn't Mrs Cummings in a privileged position to have her family there from elsewhere in the country to support her at such a distressing time.
Clavinova

Brexity tit-for-tat is not what this is about though, is it?

“Quite a lot of it is.”

In your opinion.

That might affect how you see things, but some people care that the government is making themselves look untrustworthy and incompetent in the middle of a pandemic.

Brexity tit-for-tat is not what this is about though, is it?

“Quite a lot of it is.”

I think most people are hopefully intelligent enough to know it isn't Brexit tit-for-tat

Brexity tit-for-tat is not what this is about though, is it?

Of course it is. Die-hard Remainers have stewed in impotent rage at Cummings for years after he cleaned their clocks in both the 2016 Referendum and the 2019 GE. This was their great bid for revenge.

And like all the other times they went up against him, they failed - miserably!

Mumratheevergiving
And I am sorry for your loss, but surely you would be allowed to visit your mother under the current rules and/or attend your father's funeral as a close relative?

tabulahrasa
some people care that the government is making themselves look untrustworthy and incompetent in the middle of a pandemic.

Indeed - I have just spotted this;
order-order.com/2020/06/01/observers-top-activist-scientists/

Cendrillon - what an empathetic post including smiley face. Honestly have a modicum of respect for the awful circumstances people are going through, missing births, missing funerals, coping alone at home.

Have my second

@CendrillonSings

Brexity tit-for-tat is not what this is about though, is it?

Of course it is. Die-hard Remainers have stewed in impotent rage at Cummings for years after he cleaned their clocks in both the 2016 Referendum and the 2019 GE. This was their great bid for revenge.

And like all the other times they went up against him, they failed - miserably!

aha

And the earth is flat and there’s no virus lockdown is do they can change the spy pigeon batteries as well? Because you realise that’s what it sounds like?

I couldn’t have pointed Dominic Cummings out in a line up 3 weeks ago, weirdly, I still care what the government does...

Of course it is. Die-hard Remainers have stewed in impotent rage at Cummings for years after he cleaned their clocks in both the 2016 Referendum and the 2019 GE. This was their great bid for revenge.

And like all the other times they went up against him, they failed - miserably! grin

You can't argue with stupid.

In our district the number of deaths exceeded the capacity of crematoria. Undertakers could not (and still cannot) get coffins delivered fast enough to accomodate all the customers. Factories are now turning out cheap chipboard coffins as fast as they can.

Cummings entitled contempt for the rest of us, who have been trying to keep to the rules and control the disease, disgusts me.

Clavinova - my Dad died just before lockdown and thankfully not of Covid so I am grateful that I and his friends and family did attend his funeral. My son’s school friends Dad had to have a funeral limited to 10 people. My Mum has still spent the majority of the first 6 months of being a widow on her own (after nearly 50 years of marriage) grief is not over in an instant. It really is scraping the barrel now that I am justifying why I and others actually have followed the Government’s lockdown instructions as we acted for the common good not by following our own instincts.

Of course it is. Die-hard Remainers have stewed in impotent rage at Cummings for years after he cleaned their clocks in both the 2016 Referendum and the 2019 GE. This was their great bid for revenge.

Do you really have so little empathy or comprehension that you think the anger felt by the majority of people has got something to do with Brexit?

In our district the number of deaths exceeded the capacity of crematoria.

Yes, unfortunately the pandemic planning operation, Exercise Cygnus, discussed matters such as this.

Mumratheevergiving
And I am sorry for your mother's continuing grief- hopefully you will be able to visit her again very soon.

Although I think your comment about Mrs Cummings (DC's mum) being in a privileged position was a little unfair, given the media doorstopping of her home, a 'witness' who lied about seeing her son, a misleading report from Durham police who didn't in fact visit their home after a 'tip-off' and an apparent rumour that she celebrated her birthday the day her brother died.

Clavinova - That sounds like you are saying the Cummings family have had it worse than others through ‘exceptional circumstances?’ sound familiar? Ask yourself is Dominic Cummings blameless in all this? After all Neil Ferguson is just a footnote after he had the sense to step down as he knew his position in authority setting the standards for others to follow was untenable (as did the Government who condemned his actions). All that many people wanted to hear was an apology and I say in the circumstances that’s not unreasonable.

@Clavinova

given the media doorstopping of her home

Let me check this.

Are you suggesting that her home was beseiged by journalists while her son was on his family trip, in contravention of the Prime Minister's instructions?

Or did it happen after her son refused to admit he had done anything wrong, and set up a media circus in the Rose Garden of Downing Street to reel off his carefully contrived farrago of excuses?

Mumratheevergiving - I am saying that your previous post was a little unfair to Mrs Cummings with regard to your own circumstances;

"Wasn't Mrs Cummings in a privileged position to have her family there from elsewhere in the country to support her at such a distressing time."

All that many people wanted to hear was an apology

I don't think an apology would have been enough without a resignation and Boris Johnson doesn't want him to resign.