Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

If you were annoyed at Dominic Cummings before

999 replies

NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 26/05/2020 07:41

How has his performance in the rose garden affected your opinion?

YANBU it's made things worse
YABU its cleared things up for me

OP posts:
Thread gallery
17
Michelleoftheresistance · 30/05/2020 12:53

Of course he is.

No, really can't see it.

RabbityMcRabbit · 30/05/2020 13:02

We were told to stay home. A 13 year old boy died alone because we were told to stay home.
Funeral have been held without families because we were told to stay home

This. That is why he's an absolute disgrace. He thinks the rules he made don't apply to him.

DrManhattan · 30/05/2020 13:30

Hes not bright at all. Or he would have come up with a better bs story than that.

I want to move on...
Once he has been sacked.

Makes me sick.

Alsohuman · 30/05/2020 13:36

From today’s Times:

When you look at Dom, who easily lives in a million-pound house, driving a £50,000 car, going up to stay in his in-laws’ castle — suddenly everyone has seen him for what he is. He has done some great things — that’s undeniable — but he has kind of been exposed.

“He is the person who pushed for a £20,000 fine if you broke the border quarantine, who himself drove up to Durham. It’s like The Wizard of Oz — everyone has just pulled back the curtain and it’s like some bald bloke in shit clothes.”

Walkaround · 30/05/2020 14:04

DC couldn’t have done a better job of destroying the credibility of the Government he is supposed to advise. SAGE publicly questioning the Government’s latest decisions adds to the general sense that Boris Johnson is incompetent, bumbling and confused about what the hell he is doing and why.

Mumratheevergiving · 30/05/2020 14:41

PigletJohn - He's happy to see trust in the nation's government destroyed by the nation's government.

This may well be true but is he also happy to be the laughing stock of the nation? He’s certainly used to being disliked and controversial but to be the butt of everyone’s jokes? I for one can’t stop singing ‘The Durham Dash’ and I have to laugh at the situation otherwise I’d cry as the stakes are so high about how people respond to the next stage of lockdown

SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2020 14:51

A 'Dominic Cummings ' is now a golfing term. It means a really long drive that goes out of bounds but there's no penalty.

Mittens030869 · 30/05/2020 15:01

@SabrinaThwaite Grin Thank you, I loved that one. I'll have to share it with my DH, who will love it too. I've been struggling with long-term COVID symptoms so I've had precious little to laugh at. 🤣🤣

FliesandPies · 30/05/2020 16:30

A 'Dominic Cummings ' is now a golfing term. It means a really long drive that goes out of bounds but there's no penalty.

Wouldn't it be great if it became embedded in golfing terminology so in a hundred years people would still be saying it without knowing why..

ConstanceSalinger · 30/05/2020 16:33

I wonder if DC and his journo wife will send their 4 year old back to reception next week? Seeing as it's perfectly safe etc? Or will it be another case of do as I say, not do as I do.

FliesandPies · 30/05/2020 16:41

SAGE publicly questioning the Government’s latest decisions adds to the general sense that Boris Johnson is incompetent, bumbling and confused about what the hell he is doing and why

Which of course he is. It is frightening for people but they might as well see the truth now as later - this man they voted for is a spineless, useless puppet and the puppet-master is an arrogant lying bastard.

PigletJohn · 30/05/2020 17:16

A better link to one skilled lawyers analysis of the "statement" composed by other skilled lawyers which Cummings read out.

PigletJohn · 30/05/2020 17:16

Look out for the word "preposterous."

SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2020 19:44

And an awkward lie in a bunker could be a “Johnson”?

sixnearlyseven · 30/05/2020 19:51

I think DC son isn't at school til September, I could be wrong.

And mentioning this crisis in the same sentence as Grenfell is ridiculous . Of course it will die down , by the time of the next election many other things will have happened and Cummings probably won't work for Boris anymore. I think he will stay to ' get Brexit done' then move on but who knows.

itsgettingweird · 30/05/2020 19:56

The most weird thing about the whole Cummings thing is the focus on isolating for 14 days.
I always thought it was 7 days from outset of symptoms.

That what I was sent by email form nhs direct on 21/3 when I got it.

Tavannach · 30/05/2020 20:55

The other thing that's strange about the eyesight test trip of 12 April to Barnard Castle, where GlaxoSmithKline (the company which signed the contract to produce the vaccine on April14th) have a site, is that Cummings says he spoke to a medical advisor on the 11th about whether or not he was okay to return to work. So why not ask him or her about the eyesight problem? No way would they have approved a 30 mile test run.
And despite a fairly detailed descsription of other symptoms Mary doesn't mention eyesight in her piece for 'The Spectator'.

SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2020 22:02

Sunday Times’ David Collins on Twitter this evening:

In tomorrow's @thesundaytimes we speak to three separate witnesses, each one a resident of Barnard Castle, and compare their alleged sightings of Dominic Cummings on April 12th with his rose garden statement in No10 on Monday...

Stay tuned.

wonderstuff · 30/05/2020 22:19

I personally think that the reference in Wakefield's article to a pulse oximeter is a little strange, its not something you would normally have unless you have a condition like chronic asthma where you regularly need to know oxygen levels. I brought one because reading threads on here made me worry about people not getting admitted to hospital until oxygen levels were dangerously low. Sure enough recently (last week?) there were stories in the papers about doctors discovering that 'happy hypoxia' was a potential issue with covid.

So obviously the Cummings are well read and well informed, was the trip to Durham because he was worried that the ambulance service wasn't coping an people were dying at home in London, did they travel to an area of lower infection because they thought they would be safer if one of them became seriously ill?

I don't buy the idea it was about childcare. I think that was an excuse.

The bigger story is the government repeatedly lying when he clearly broke the guidelines.

Mumratheevergiving · 31/05/2020 00:00

So we're a week on and Cummings is still the story. People are still discussing the whys and the wherefores, MPs inboxes are still heaving with angry emails, scientists are calling him out on his actions (and warning of the hit on public health). This messy, upset-causing episode is not getting buried is it, despite Central Government's best efforts to move on?

So the tactic now seems to be to smear the witnesses (including one chump who didn't help establish the truth of the case by fabricating a sighting) and hope people will be appeased by the suggestion that Johnson has bollocked Cummings behind closed doors and he's now going to hide him in a fridge (presumably to stop the public from remembering & getting the rage when they see him). So on goes the discussion tomorrow; I hope they understand the public have now been waiting over a week for their apology.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8372911/Boris-puts-Dominic-Cummings-chance-one-witness-admits-sighting-aide.html

FliesandPies · 31/05/2020 00:28

Still amazes me that not even a half-hearted Pritti Patel style non-apology ('sorry if you feel i've broken the rules..') has never been uttered and now it's way too late.

All Cummings had to do was order Johnson to say sorry on his behalf if he couldn't face doing it himself - people would have accepted it more from Bozo as he's 'likeable'.

Oh well, I expect it will start to fade away unless anyone's got any other evidence but Cummings has really done himself a nasty mischief and frankly that makes me feel very heartened. Be sure your sin will find you out!

Mumratheevergiving · 31/05/2020 00:30

This is a public health issue not ' a political ding-dong'. Come on No. 10. let's follow the science... A group of leading scientists have written to the PM 'This trust has been badly damaged by the actions of Dominic Cummings, including his failure to stand down or resign in the public interest, and Boris Johnson’s subsequent unwillingness to remove him.
As lockdown is eased, public trust and high compliance is essential to reduce the risk of a second spike in infections and deaths. It is vital for all people in positions of power to follow the rules with the same discipline as the rest of the population.'

Professor Maggie Rae, president of the Faculty of Public Health,Professor Elio Riboli, Imperial College London,Professor David McCoy, Queen Mary University London,Professor David Hunter, University of Oxford,Professor Trish Greenhalgh, University of Oxford,Mike Gill, former regional director of Public Health, south-east England,Professor Raj Bhopal, University of Edinburgh,Professor Martin McKee, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine,Professor George Davey Smith, University of Bristol,Professor Ruth Gilbert, University College London,Professor Neil Pearce, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine,Professor Helen Ward, Imperial College London,Professor Mark S Gilthorpe, University of Leeds and Alan Turing Institute,Professor Adrian Martineau, Queen Mary University London,Professor Allyson Pollock, University of Newcastle,Dr Rochelle Burgess, UCL Institute for GlobalHealth,Professor Paolo Vineis, Imperial College London,Anne Wilson, Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine,Dr Tim Colbourn, University College London,Professor Majid Ezzati, Imperial College London,Professor Deborah Ashby, Imperial College London,Professor Sonia Saxena, Imperial College London,Professor Richard Healey, University of Portsmouth,Professor Deborah A Lawlor, Bristol Medical School,Professor Guiqing Lily Yao, University of Leicester,Dr Nisreen Alwan, Southampton University

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/30/dominic-cummings-actions-damage-public-health

Euclid · 31/05/2020 00:35

Does nobody realise that the ghastly PM cannot function without this awful man? Watch BJ replying to journalists' questions when he doesn't have a script. He flounders completely and is totally out of his depth. Two scumbags.

JudyCoolibar · 31/05/2020 07:58

Oh, I think most people realise that, @Euclid. And that includes Conservative supporters.

Chillipeanuts · 31/05/2020 08:28

Yesterday 19:56 itsgettingweird

The most weird thing about the whole Cummings thing is the focus on isolating for 14 days.
I always thought it was 7 days from outset of symptoms. “

As I understand it, if you have it, and don’t go on to develop more severe symptoms, you ought to have recovered and no longer be infectious after 7 days. If you live with someone with symptoms but have none yourself, the 14 days is to allow the symptoms to develop in you, during which time you’re potentially infectious even though asymptomatic, then allow the illness to run its course in you.
Quite possible I’ve got that wrong too, though!