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If you were annoyed at Dominic Cummings before

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NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 26/05/2020 07:41

How has his performance in the rose garden affected your opinion?

YANBU it's made things worse
YABU its cleared things up for me

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sleepingpup · 30/05/2020 00:13

Please do NOT test your eyes like that EVER !@CendrillonSings

It's a really really bad idea. Do you have young children? Def don't put them in the back of the car if you are tempted.

But as a Cummings cheerleader you might just try it out - but please, just go round the block - 60 miles is way too far, you'll know by the end of the road if your eyes are dodgy.

Lastly Cends you really WoN'T need the whole historical attraction thing to make sure you can focus. Cummings is quite special like that and his style of eye test is ONLY for people who work in the highest level of Government.

PigletJohn · 30/05/2020 00:14

Nobody actually believes Cummings fairy story about eyesight.

He had a family day out on his wife's birthday and it never occurred to him that he would get criticised for being an entitled arse. And he doesn't care anyway. What does it matter if the Morlocks don't like the Elite?

SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2020 00:16

The part where your long legal discussion was 100% pointless because it will never have any practical effect on anything?

Which proves that you actually had no understanding of the discussion whatsoever, but hey, you go girl!

CendrillonSings · 30/05/2020 00:16

Alsohuman

As to my prediction, we’ll see - it’s not exactly going swimmingly now, is it?

Your prediction is indeed not going swimmingly, because it’s utter rubbish. Remind me, which shoe did you say you were going to feast on again at Christmas? Not an expensive one, I hope.

SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2020 00:17

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If you were annoyed at Dominic Cummings before
CendrillonSings · 30/05/2020 00:18

SabrinaThwaite

Hey, you want to waste days or weeks on irrelevant questions that will never have any practical effect in the real world, well, we all need a hobby...

NYMM · 30/05/2020 00:24

FliesandPies....
You said I thought it was sensible. I didn't even write that. You're mistaken, but, we can all make mistakes sometimes can't we?
Just so you're aware, my mind is very sound, so yet another mistake you made.

sleepingpup · 30/05/2020 00:25

@CendrillonSings

Remember that the Cummings EYE TEST does NOT work in the real world.

People will just LAUGH at you. Oh dear.

They won't forget either.

Alsohuman · 30/05/2020 00:28

Both shoes @CendrillonSings. I always do a proper job.

SabrinaThwaite · 30/05/2020 00:30

Well given how invested you have been, it appears it hasn’t been irrelevant after all?

And I suspect the many people who may now find themselves with the opportunity to appeal fines for inessential journeys may find it’s not irrelevant either.

FliesandPies · 30/05/2020 00:59

Your prediction is indeed not going swimmingly, because it’s utter rubbish

It's a prediction - that means it can't be deemed rubbish until the time has passed and the prediction has been proved wrong. 7 months til Xmas and Johnson is plummeting in the polls - plenty more shit coming his way that he won't know how to deal with too.

Tavannach · 30/05/2020 02:56

Fairy story music

m.youtube.com/watch?v=I5M1MzMsiic

PigletJohn · 30/05/2020 08:52

Cendrillon doesn't really believe Cummings.

Nobody does.

Not me

Not you

Not Cendrillon

Not Johnson

Not Cummings.

Walkaround · 30/05/2020 09:15

Whichever way you analyse it, Cummings comes out of it looking bad. Either he genuinely did want to test his eyesight by driving his family somewhere nice (on his wife’s birthday...) and is then too dim and arrogant to apologise for doing something so blatantly wrong and stupid; or he is an inveterate liar who calculated it would be better to come across as misguided than to admit he deliberately broke rules he helped to draft because he thought they were stupid.

PigletJohn · 30/05/2020 09:42

He knows he's lying, we know he's lying, he knows we know.

He's just arrogant enough to think that, as an Elite at the top of Government, he can get away with it.

Michelleoftheresistance · 30/05/2020 10:30

He knows he's lying, we know he's lying, he knows we know.

This.

What's being taken for 'moving on' and 'getting bored' - ie the general public and media having been ignored to the point they stop talking about it....

Is actually them giving up on Johnson and this government. See polls. It no longer matters what he says, does or waves around in the form of Nando charts. There's no longer any point as a voter in bothering to listen.

DebHagland · 30/05/2020 10:35

It is Boris trying to deflect the situation by changing the subject. (After all if they manage to kill off enough old people with the virus they can afford the triple lock pension scheme). Send the oldies back to care homes without testing them, tell everyone to go on a day trip to the coast, plenty of oldies living there too ( or am I being cynical about Boris & Cummings real chain of thought).

Michelleoftheresistance · 30/05/2020 10:39

Deb I've been there too.

But Hanlon's razer. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

And after trying to make sense of wtf Boris is on about or doing for the past few weeks, I give up. I don't think he even knows himself.

PigletJohn · 30/05/2020 10:48

The razor may apply to Buffoon Boris, but not to Cummings. He considers himself to be top of the untouchable elite.

Mumratheevergiving · 30/05/2020 11:00

And so Cummings actions detracting from the public health message continue...
Take for example the Daily Mail lead story today ‘Weekenf Lockdown breakers will be fined..,’a long article dealing with many aspects to the changes in policy, no mention of Cummings in the article but wait until you get to the public comments! All caused by him still being in his job when the public clearly understands his wrong-doing has gone without penalty. Sort that out and the distraction and comments go away, until then they won’t.

PigletJohn · 30/05/2020 11:15

He's happy to see trust in the nation's government destroyed by the nation's government.

MarshaBradyo · 30/05/2020 11:20

He's happy to see trust in the nation's government destroyed by the nation's government.

He is a bit rogue. Wins stuff but likes effecting big change. I reckon

Michelleoftheresistance · 30/05/2020 12:02

DC isn't very bright. If any of that cock and bull story was true it showed stupid decision after stupid decision, and what wasn't true he thought the electorate would swallow. When actually what he was demonstrating that single mothers with covid who managed at home had more initiative, sense of responsibility and basic coping skills than the PM's chief advisor. Less evil genius than prat.

ITonyah · 30/05/2020 12:24

DC isn't very bright

Of course he is.

Mittens030869 · 30/05/2020 12:24

The anger at Cummings will die down, which is what BoJo and Cummings are counting on. Remember the Grenfell fire? There was so much anger at the time, quite rightly, but 2 years on, the Tories won a thumping election victory and no mention of Grenfell at all. (Brexit had taken over.)

What they won't win back is the public trust, so now when they're opening up the economy we don't think we can trust their decision making. I have a lot of concern about the decision to open up the economy, as the R is just below 1. This means that we can't yet see my 80 year old DM, it's sad but we decided that we needed to wait. (My DH has asthma, too, and I'm vulnerable at the moment, though it does appear that there's some immunity if we've had the virus.

It's also very understandable that people are angry about Cummings but we shouldn't let that distract us from what really matters now which is avoiding a second spike. And please don't refuse to stick to restrictions because Cummings didn't because you're likely to affect a vulnerable person than Cummings, who won't care.