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to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 3

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SophieB100 · 25/05/2020 18:03

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Clavinova · 26/05/2020 10:58

How about Nigel Farage - he got a ticking off from the Kent Police - should he have been fined, or is a UKIP/BrexitParty politician OK?

Actually - he claims to have been exonerated here - I heard something on LBC last week but I don't know the details.

Studlee · 26/05/2020 10:59

Ffs, this is like Brexit all over again, people led by the MSM won't let this go! God, just look out the window to see thousands breaking the rules. Getting boring now.

itsgettingweird · 26/05/2020 11:00

Cho yeah. The drip feed including "my reason is he has been having weird eyes and strange vision."

And I would be surprised if many, or any MNers said "yeah. If his eye sight may be dodgy he should drive to test it out!"

itsgettingweird · 26/05/2020 11:03

Stud and many have been fined. I say many because the inequality of our justice system has already been pointed out. But he wrote those rules. Police are held to higher account for rule breaking than the Lublin because of an oath. Justice system workers will be sacked or even have to report minor offences whereas those in other jobs don't.
It's the people who actually want to let this go that worry me more than Cummings right now.
If they get away with this it sets a president. And not a good one.

chomalungma · 26/05/2020 11:04

Ffs, this is like Brexit all over again, people led by the MSM won't let this go

What did Matt Hancock say about Neil Ferguson again?
The hypocrisy from senior Government Ministers is amazing

That's part of the issue.

Peregrina · 26/05/2020 11:07

Yep, boring for those bereaved who couldn't say a proper goodbye to their loved ones.

But going back to Clavinova and her attempts to make excuses - yes, Kinnock, although he wasn't ill, perhaps should have been fined, Farage too. The Royals should have had more criticism for immediately debunking to their second/third homes. But none of these actually made the law - it was the unelected spin doctor who has extraordinary power over a weak Prime Minister who made the law, and now thinks he is above the law, and so far above the law that he comes out with excuses that are so pathetic that they are an insult.

Clavinova · 26/05/2020 11:07

Think that driving on a 50 mile round trip on Easter Sunday on your wife's birthday to test your are safe to drive is sensible?

I expect he planned his son's trip to hospital, his own illness and recovery, Boris Johnson's stay in hospital all to coincide with his wife's birthday - I knew he was clever...

Ulver · 26/05/2020 11:08

Oh so now the new line is Boring!!!!

Studlee

Ffs, this is like Brexit all over again, people led by the MSM won't let this go! God, just look out the window to see thousands breaking the rules. Getting boring now.

Yeah it’s boring being locked up in the house for two months.

When we were just not “interpreting” the rules in the right way.

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whocanibe2day · 26/05/2020 11:09

What I wish he was asked is 'What part of STAY AT HOME did you not understand?'

chomalungma · 26/05/2020 11:11

So that's your way of saying it wasn't sensible.

I have to say I am really enjoying this at the moment. It's been great entertainment all weekend. And a bonus on Bank Holiday

Peregrina · 26/05/2020 11:11

Well as far as Stay at Home goes we heard that as far as Wills and Kate and their family were concerned their home was in Norfolk. But strangely their children attend a day school in London, which makes it a very long commute for them!

Peregrina · 26/05/2020 11:12

So Cummings real home is in Durham - the swanky pad in London is just a pied a terre when he has to put in a shift in Downing Street.

derxa · 26/05/2020 11:15

So Cummings real home is in Durham - the swanky pad in London is just a pied a terre when he has to put in a shift in Downing Street. I think that's actually the case. He co-owns the farm.

PerkingFaintly · 26/05/2020 11:17

OK, someone's posted elsewhere (and this matches the brief poke around that I had) that Alice Sarah Louise Cummings isn't Dominic's sister, she's married to someone called Cummings.

Might or might not be family, but probably not his sister.

There might be no connection between Alice Cummings and Dominic at all, and it just be a coincidence.

chomalungma · 26/05/2020 11:22

I know I usually dismiss polls and I know that someone will post a poll about current voting intentions.

But this is not a good look for Johnson

Election Maps UK
@ElectionMapsUK
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31m
Net Approval of how Boris Johnson has handled Coronavirus:

25th March: +44%
25th April: +26%
25th May: -1%

Via @SavantaComRes
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itsgettingweird · 26/05/2020 11:22

But they didn't co incide with his wife's birthday. That was Easter Sunday. That's the day he went to Barnard castle. I've not said I don't agree he shouldn't have picked them up from hospital (although did question whether the childcare he'd traveled to get wouldn't have been in better health and a position to do this)

Ulver · 26/05/2020 11:23

We need clarification that the Cummings that Cummings gave the contract to is a Cummings loving in Durham related to his Cummings.
I mean it would be an amazing coincidence if she wasn’t?

PerkingFaintly · 26/05/2020 11:28

Although oddly, this Alice Cummings is involved with many of Dominic's favourite things:

LISTED PUBLIC SECTOR SOFTWARE FIRM ANNOUNCES NED
New appointment at firm tracking patient records for NHS as board member steps down
www.businesscloud.co.uk/news/listed-public-sector-software-firm-announced-new-ned

Alice Cummings will join as a Non-Executive Director with immediate effect.

Headquartered in West Berkshire, the company has offices in Glasgow, Cambridge, Hillsborough and Manchester.

It provides a range of software for local and central government, alongside a private sector arm. One of its solutions currently tracks more than 11.5 million Active Patient Records in NHS Trusts across the UK.

Cummings, a Vice-Chair of Cottsway Housing Association and a Non-Executive Director of Health Intelligence, was formerly Group CFO at the InHealth Group for over seven years.

During her career, she also spent over 16 years in commercial, operational and financial roles with the AEA Group, a main listed environmental, energy efficiency and data management consultancy, ultimately as Group CFO. She is qualified as an FCA, having started her career with PricewaterhouseCoopers.

This is a sideshow to Cummings' gallivanting about the country while insisting the rest of us stay home, but it's potentially interesting to those of us following his Big Data grab. Could all be a red herring though, I can't stress that enough.

Peregrina · 26/05/2020 11:29

Johnson still has ample time to turn the Polls round. However some commentator, I don't now remember who, said that a PM's authority can drain away suddenly and they never get it back. I have seen this happen with Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown. Cameron did a runner as soon as he lost his authority, May clung on for grim death when she had blown her authority, and now Johnson. How good will his Houdini act be?

Clavinova · 26/05/2020 11:31

That's the day he went to Barnard castle.

If they only spent 15 minutes on the edge of town they didn't get to see much of Barnard Castle.

Peregrina · 26/05/2020 11:36

Who knows how long he spent in Barnard Castle? Perhaps his wife will enlighten us with an article, which implies that he was there 15 minutes but was in fact there an hour.

This is more likely - who after all goes on a 25-30 mile journey and only stays 15 minutes? The only time I can think this would be plausible would be if the heaven's opened and your jolly was completely washed out - then you might get back in the car and go home again.

Peregrina · 26/05/2020 11:37

Heavens, no apostrophe needed!

SharonasCorona · 26/05/2020 11:38

Yes we only have their word that they spent 15 minutes in Barnard Castle. They went to a beauty spot by the river and sat for some time.

itsgettingweird · 26/05/2020 11:43

If they only spent 15 minutes on the edge of town they didn't get to see much of Barnard Castle.

That irrelevant. It wasn't an essential journey. It wasn't to seek food. It wasn't to provide care. It wasn't to deliver or collect medicines. They've even admitted it was t intended for exercise which could have been the closest defence they had.

And it certainly wasn't in case they needed childcare Grin

YouTheCat · 26/05/2020 11:43

It doesn't matter. They shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Does anyone else suspect Alice is just Dom's alter ego? Grin

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