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Original poster

Have you thought ‘fuck it’ to lockdown because Dominic Cummings did? Poll!

177 replies

FancyARoot · 25/05/2020 07:47

Interested in how many peoples views on lockdown have changed. I know mine have and that of most of my family and friends.

YABU - nope, still resolutely sticking to the rules
YANBU - fuck it, if it’s ok for him to tour the country with a car full of coronavirus then I can go visit my mum?

Due to circumstances I can’t actually go visit my mum. But after this, if I could be doing then I would be doing.

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Chillipeanuts · 25/05/2020 10:01

FamilyOfAliens

Well no, not really.

If people want to ignore restrictions because they believe there’s no longer a risk, fair enough.

But if they accept the risk to them hasn’t changed and are just pissed off at Cummings and decide to do the same in defiance, how will that benefit them/their families?

Bl3ss3dm0m · 25/05/2020 10:18

OP, how about using your commonsense rather than copying a complete idiot? At the moment as long as the vast majority stick to the published rules, there is still a very good chance of us all not being overwhelmed by this virus. I believe that already we can see how the government didn't react quickly enough, and strongly enough to the pandemic, and it looks like a few at the head of the government are acting very irresponsibly now, but that should not stop the intelligent ones amongst us from adhering to eminently sensible rules. If you (like a certain Piers Morgan "threatened) and the others like you, now start to break the rules then it could well escalate into a devastating situation. So please, if not for your own, and your loved ones sake, stick to the rules for the sake of all the still very vulnerable people out there, and so that the hospitals can start treating/operating on all the ones who urgently need hospital care.

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FancyARoot · 25/05/2020 10:22

OP, how about using your commonsense rather than copying a complete idiot?

But this is the thing. I have been following the rules, even though my common sense has told me that actually it would be fine for my children to play in the open with their friends next door. But I haven’t followed my common sense because I, like many others, followed the rules to the letter.

But it turns out that according to the rules we were actually allowed to travel the country to see family if we were struggling slightly.

Not hard to see why people are annoyed, is it?

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chunkyrun · 25/05/2020 10:28

Was only loosely following the rules tbh. Drove for exercise to local parks before it was specified. Went on socially distanced walks with a few friends. I'll stick to interpreting things from my own judgement.

Music101 · 25/05/2020 10:32

I have been continually amazed by the naivety and stupidity of most people

That’s great @NoHardSell - enjoy your own rarefied intellect and leave the rest of us to our “bread and circuses”.

In any case it’s not the fact that Cummings broke the rules which is the problem, it is the fact that by not getting rid of him Boris has effectively undermined the public health message, and that does matter. It might be a blunt instrument but this is what we have for the moment.

Bl3ss3dm0m · 25/05/2020 10:38

Sorry OP, if that is what your commonsense was telling you then you were right not to follow it , so I wholeheartedly apologise for asking you to follow your commonsense. Boris and Cummings are both completely stupid, Cummings for his actions, and Boris for not sacking him (I am actually wondering if Boris hasn't got anyone else less arrogant and stupid to take Cummings place, and/or that he is such a close friend with him that he just doesn't want to sack him). If Boris doesn't sack him today I think that he will not remain the leader of the Conservative Party for much longer.
However, I still can't understand how anyone else's (I need a thesaurus to look up other words for stupid and idiot) idiotic behaviour makes you think that you should be just as ridiculous?

BoingBoingyBoing · 25/05/2020 10:41

Frankly, if people are now thinking about travelling to see family etc then fine, go. Take care, but go.

By supporting that dick, Boris has effectively completely undermined the moral authority of the government to enforce lockdown and it's now down to individuals to act as they best fit.

Sindragosan · 25/05/2020 10:42

It's funny how its turning into 'Cummings saw his family so I can see mine' and yet school and work is still much too dangerous Hmm

Don't agree with what he did, but one guy being a nob doesn't mean everyone should be.

And for clarification, have not gone anywhere other than daily walks from my front door since lockdown began.

BirdieFriendReturns · 25/05/2020 10:43

I’ve gone over to MiL’s garden a couple of times now.

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 25/05/2020 10:47

i sit in dm garden when i take her shopping, it seems i was breaking rules,
i am using my common sense however.

Maestro7 · 25/05/2020 10:51

@OhTheRoses I must have missed that bit in the regulations ‘if you have a child with special needs you can travel whenever and wherever in the country you want if you think you have coronavirus and family can mind your child better’

Can you link to that guidance for children with special needs?

Thisisworsethananticpated · 25/05/2020 10:54

I think most people are doing a mini bend
I sat away from friend in the park
I have my mum in garden , mainly because kids and I propose minimal risk

But what he did was misguided , and it causing a Load of unnecessary noise

ladylunchalot · 25/05/2020 10:55

I've listened to the Scottish government throughout and take my advice from them. Wouldn't trust the Westmonster lot to organise a piss up in a brewery. I will continue to follow Scotland's guidance re lock down and thank my lucky stars I live there.

Maestro7 · 25/05/2020 10:58

And why do people keep saying his child would be taken into care? Do you have information on large numbers of children being taken into care when both parents got corona virus or are you just talking crap? Mummy and Daddy are sick for a week billy so off to the orphanage with you Hmm

@ohthrroses Cambridge have said they are moving lectures online not that they are cancelling masters. That’s what I’ve read in the papers.

NiknicK · 25/05/2020 10:58

No. I don’t need anyone to tell what to do for the best. I’m not going to put my friends and family at risk just because some people chose not to follow the rules. I keep seeing posts on Facebook asking why should people keep to lockdown as we look to the government to guide us and lead by example, and I’m like FFS. I expect there are so many people out there fed up with whole situation ie staying home, not seeing friends and family, and some who were already considering breaking the rules. Good for you if you want to risk those around, you do what you like, but don’t disguise it as outrage for government advisors and use them as a reason for breaking lockdown.

OhTheRoses · 25/05/2020 11:03

@Maestro7 do look nack at what was published on and shortly after 23rd March. The rules were, except for caring responsibilities, and Jenny Harries was perfectly clear matters were more complex where children were concerned.

Had my mother who is 83 had a fall or been unwell between 23rd and now I'd have driven 100 miles to her. Likewise DH would have driven 240 to his in similar circumstances. There is nobody else except for dh's cousins and I doubt they would have helped.

Washyourhandsyoufilthyanimal · 25/05/2020 11:05

I’m relaxing on the rules but not because of DC more because there are hardly any cases in the city I’m in and it’s been long enough now I need to start weighing up the affects on mental health rather than the small chance I would be seriously ill from this. May sound selfish but it’s what I have to do to get through atm. I’m still social distancing but just seeing family in the park at a distance.

OhTheRoses · 25/05/2020 11:05

Who said Cambridge were cancelling Masters. My post didn't say that. Goodness no wonder you need rules and regs spelled out with that level of comprehension.

ChilliCheese123 · 25/05/2020 11:14

The thought of myself getting Coronavirus has never and will never scare me. It just doesn’t. A lot of things scare me in life but it’s just not one of them. This has colored my entire attitude towards the whole thing, as I am not anxious about doing anything. The only thing that bothers me about it it is either a) giving it to MIL and being blamed for the next however many years by the wider family or b) giving it unwittingly to someone I don’t know has underlying conditions etc

I don’t understand perfectly healthy people who are supposedly ‘shaking with nerves’ every time they have to go in the CoOp for a pint of milk. That’s not normal! You don’t have to live that way!

But then I’ve been back at work about a month now and my life isn’t that different to be honest. So no, to answer your question, I won’t be breaking any rules because of this, but I am starting to find it all a bit pointless

PileofToss · 25/05/2020 11:25

I voted YABU with a caveat though - my friends and family are at least 3.5 hour’s drive from me, so if I were to travel, I’d want to stay over. This, I believe, would be pushing the rules too much and asking someone else to do so as well.

Most of my friends are now meeting up with each other and I’m insanely jealous, but I’m waiting a while before I feel as though I’d be more welcomed!

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FancyARoot · 25/05/2020 11:25

I need a thesaurus to look up other words for stupid and idiot

Well, I hope the irony’s not lost on you.

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Maestro7 · 25/05/2020 11:26

@OhTheRoses

You are being disingenuous just like DC in your interpretation of the rules. They clearly stated If you or anyone in your household had symptoms then the household was to isolate. No exceptions. That is a very very different scenario to going to help your unwell mother when a) she has no one else to help her - not true for DC and b) you don’t bring your partner who actually has coronavirus with you - which he did! I would hope you wouldn’t be so moronic as to bring a partner with coronavirus with you but then from your posts and defence of DC it sounds like it could be a possibility.

Those defending him are pathetic. The most basic thing anyone can do on a human level - not even to do with the lockdown - during this pandemic is not fucking go out when you HAVE THE VIRUS. Never mind travelling half way across the country. It’s outrageous.

Tulipstulips · 25/05/2020 11:27

I do feel like doing this, but I won’t.

JudgeRindersMinder · 25/05/2020 11:30

It’s very tempting I have to admit, but I’m not going to sink to their level, we’re all better than that

Sn0tnose · 25/05/2020 11:34

We’re still being very, very careful here. I already thought that the rules were pretty stupid (stay indoors unless you fancy going out for unlimited amounts of exercise etc) and that this government isn’t handling things very well compared to some other countries, so I’m not at all surprised at what has happened.

I’m really not confident that I would survive a virus that wants to have a poke about in my lungs so I don’t care what anyone else is doing. I need to take responsibility for myself. We’ve lost a loved one and another two people we know (all perfectly fit and healthy previously) have really suffered with it (one hospital admission). The risk still seems very real and very present to us. DH works in a supermarket so we just have to hope he doesn’t bring anything nasty home with him. We’re not increasing that risk to ourselves or vulnerable friends and family by going to sit in their gardens or meeting up for walks in the park. I’m not judging anyone else for doing that, but I won’t put myself anywhere near them at the moment.