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to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 2

999 replies

SophieB100 · 24/05/2020 16:46

New thread to continue previous one, hope you don't mind original OP!

OP posts:
Peregrina · 24/05/2020 18:48

is this frustration going to get you anywhere?

It depends what you do with this frustration - if you harness the energy to do something you can move mountains.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 24/05/2020 18:48

The Guardian will have more. The sooner they share it the better.

I don’t know about that. Drip feeding part of the story allowing them to tie themselves in knots defending it and then dripping another bit to show the defence is bollocks is working quite well.

The80sweregreat · 24/05/2020 18:49

I'm glad it's fine: I'm sure my lovely hairdresser would love to go back to work to fix my mop of hair! She was so upset at not being able to work bless her.

HeIenaDove · 24/05/2020 18:50

I got talking to a mobile hairdresser behind me in the queue in Tesco last Thursday. Even offered me her number

Damn Should have taken it.

The80sweregreat · 24/05/2020 18:51

The mobile hairdressers are probably sharpening their scissors as we speak!

SharonasCorona · 24/05/2020 18:53

Pride goeth before a fall. DC was so, so arrogant when asked about his actions outside his house. How could someone renowned for spin be that stupid? He got so many people’s backs up.

cyclingmad · 24/05/2020 18:55

So much backlash, where is the backlash when other mps did it, kinnock being one example.....noone demanding he quits.

Hypocrisy is amazing

Leighwalk · 24/05/2020 18:55

Absolutely appalled by D.C. and BJ.
Treat as if we have misunderstood.

I've worked for an LA, seven days per week from the start of this, trying to support schools, parents, children. Teams of volunteers ( LA staff, teachers, TA's) keeping LA hubs open to provide childcare to KW's for their children. For what? We didn't need them, how did we not understand.

I hate lies and liars.
The only good thing to come out of this is that BJ is showing what a poor leader he is. He has to go.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 24/05/2020 18:57

The cabinet office official twitter feed has responded to the Civil service tweet saying they’ve removed the post and are investigating the matter.

It’s probably fair to say it’s not going well for them in the replies.

mobile.twitter.com/cabinetofficeuk/status/1264613950790008835

Peregrina · 24/05/2020 18:59

So much backlash, where is the backlash when other mps did it, kinnock being one example.....noone demanding he quits.

Kinnock got a lot of flak for it, but Kinnock isn't in Government, or pulling the strings of Government. I don't doubt if he was, the Tory Press would have been screaming for his guts and he would have resigned by now.

Swiftseason · 24/05/2020 19:00

The rest of us.... Would surely get help if there was an empty house near family who could shop for us Confused surely?

Jenny harries said people with vulnerable people relying on us would have to tweak the advice.

I think lock down was too late.
I've been highly sceptical about so called advise coming through. One minuet, massive public gatherings were fine, the next it's OK to have Madrid fans over.
No issue with air travel because the science says so.

I lost my faith in them before this virus started. I had my dc out of school the week before they were officially allowed.
I had set myself up with a regular on line shop one month... Before lock down.

I could see the train steaming towards us at the time the mood was very much gung ho... It's a load of crap.
I have read stats on countries wearing masks, looked at Singapore and south Korea response.

I've felt rage listening to our so called medical experts and their evidence... When this is a novel virus and not much bloody evidence to back up anything.. I've also been aware of the care home scandal which is and will go down as one of the crimes of the century.

However, having armed myself with information and not waited for anyone to spoon feed it to me... I've followed what I think are sensible rules.

My family has barely been out in 8 weeks thanks to the savouir of a garden.
I've not berated any family sitting down in a park or on a beach away from others who don't have personal green space.

We've had 90% of our shopping delivered and we wash it in a delivery. We've only accessed shops a handful of times and only for a few items.
We've not been out for daily excersise, dh goes for 2 runs a week..

When we do go out I drive a short distance, later on in afternoon to places I know are not busy.

I've taken this very seriously. We've not seen anyone outside our bubble.

In that frame work had we had access to an empty house with family to assist us in DC scenario, I absolutely would have taken it. The biggest issue is the distance but he can't help how far away the help is.

What I personally feel people should be getting riled about is the care home debacle.
Care homes at best are a disgrace in the UK.
Awful prisons. With too much rare exceptions.
I can get riled up about the care home crisis, sending elderly patients to care homes where staff had no real clear information about their status, no access to ppe... And no access to doctors who had refused to go to care homes...

But, I guess to the extreme left.. Dominc Cummings is the easier obvious target Confused

BubblesBuddy · 24/05/2020 19:00

There are few people who find him pleasant that’s for sure. Good at 3 word memorable slogans though. That we, the “animals” followed to the letter because of threats and fear. Cummings is turning into Napoleon from Animal Farm. He has very radical ideas and is a bully. The next instalment could be even more head turning.

Inoneminute · 24/05/2020 19:00

Kinnock wasn't responsible for the message. That the huge difference here. The person who wrote the instructions and demanded the country follow them, didn't follow them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/05/2020 19:01

I think they are hoping this will be a 48 hour story, let's hope it doesn't go away

TBF the initial outrage will go away, but that's not the same as this being forgotten; in future it'll become one more stick to (rightly) beat them with

As for Boris "having no integrity", give me a break - he wouldn't have made it to being a senior politician if he did

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2020 19:02

What's Boris Johnson's email?

SharonasCorona · 24/05/2020 19:02

I think they’re hoping we’ll look at this in the context of the current more relaxed lockdown.

YouTheCat · 24/05/2020 19:04

Swift, all of that is valid as well and the government must be taken to task over it all. Cummings is just the tip of a very slimy and corrupt iceberg.

Peregrina · 24/05/2020 19:04

But, I guess to the extreme left.. Dominc Cummings is the easier obvious target

I think you will find that a lot of Tory voters are incandescent too - they have dutifully followed the rules and been played for fools.

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2020 19:05

This response to the civil service tweet being reported as unofficial and deleted is brilliant "it's ok. They were just following their instincts while individually interpreting the rules" Grin

Mittens030869 · 24/05/2020 19:06

Not the twat using "but I love my kid and wife"

I agree. And how loving was it, subjecting them to a long drive up north just in case they might not be able to look after their 4 year old. I was very ill, and the last thing I would have wanted would have been a long drive in a car, putting my DDs at extra risk, and unwitting members of the public at motorway services. (They must have stopped for the toilet surely?

All they had to do was let their DS watch CBeebies and organise online deliveries of supplies. That's what the rest of us did.

BubblesBuddy · 24/05/2020 19:06

Year by pretending the relaxed lock down started in March and we, the public, were too stupid to notice!

How ill were Cummings and wife if one or both could drive to Co Durham from a London. She has family in London. The DC could have gone there. Obviously not ideal but lots of people with the virus cared for their DC. They didn’t all drive to grandparents in another part of the country. What but of “stay at home” didn’t he understand?

Humphriescushion · 24/05/2020 19:07

Jk Rowling offered a years salary to the person who tweeted! Grin

The80sweregreat · 24/05/2020 19:08

The dates were around my own pitiful birthday and Easter. It was a ghost town here. We had the first wave of lockdown ( it was done properly here) whilst Dom was off to Durham.

The80sweregreat · 24/05/2020 19:09

Good old J K!

Swiftseason · 24/05/2020 19:13

Threats and fear 😱?

Really?

You didn't follow sensible guidance because it made sense to you?

I'd love to know what you think are threats and fear?
I've seen footage of people physically man handled and tackled to the ground and kicked in wuhan to get back in their homes.
I've even heard of people being sealed into their homes, where people did die.
I've seen Italian police similarly man handled people who broke lock down and entire villages and towns closed off.
Same in France.

But you think.. The UK government deployed threats and fear 😱.

Really!!