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To think if Boris won't sack Dominic Cummings then Boris should go?

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madroid · 23/05/2020 20:16

Boris Johnson will have known Dominic Cummings broke all the rules of lockdown and self-isolation by taking his covid-19 wife to County Durham 260 miles away to his elderly parents' home.

Boris will have known that Dominic Cummings then went back again two weeks later.

Boris has told the rest of the cabinet to defend Dominic Cummings now he's been found out.

AIBU to think Boris should go too?

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madroid · 24/05/2020 13:10

@Pleasenodont

This won't be forgotten. Too many people have worried about, and struggled through, looking after children while ill and not seeing their families, to now have been told basically they were bad parents and didn't use their common sense.

That's a slap in the face of unforgettable proportions from our leaders that can't be forgotten.

It also mean that if there's a second wave compliance with lockdown will not be maintained leading to many more deaths.

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IWantT0BreakFree · 24/05/2020 13:15

We should have Government and trials by Social Media that way we can ignore common sense and any sense of normal perspective. We can safely ignore the majority just allow any one to start a PC bandwagon and that will be the foh dation of any rule. We can then have Corbyn as PM, be a socialist state completely revoke all Women's rights, without NHS support to Tory voters and Remain in the EU it will Eutopia I'm telling you Eutopia.

The majority of this toddler-tantrum rant is irrelevant because we don't have a labour government, we have a conservative one and have had for over a decade so there is quite obviously nobody to be held to account apart from the Tories. Corbyn is not the leader of the opposition so the reference to him is irrelevant. The Brexit referendum is also completely irrelevant to the Coronavirus crisis.
Criticising the current government is not a comment on the opposition. I don't know why people are incapable of understanding this. For the record, despite my criticism of the Conservative party, I am not a staunch Labour supporter in recent years either (although I did vote for them because they were the best of a bad bunch) partly because of the women's rights issues. People seem incapable of actually thinking critically and analysing the current government's actions, without drawing useless comparisons with a party that has not been in power for donkey's years.

Boris won the election, and with a thumping majority, so who do you think is going to oppose him ?. Cummings is under pressure but he’s a tough but to crack. He will survive

Boris didn't win the election, the Conservative party did. Reference to the opposition is again irrelevant because they are not in charge and have absolutely diddly squat to do with Dominic Cummings breaking the law. DC may well survive, but the question is why would you want him to? Why would you want the PM to defend a senior aide who has broken a law that he was part of developing? A law (albeit a necessary one) that has caused widespread anguish and suffering for many of the millions of people who have done the right thing? Why are you happy to make huge sacrifices and then have the government decide that the law doesn't apply to them? That's the issue at hand. Forget Labour and Brexit.

IWantT0BreakFree · 24/05/2020 13:18

The Brexit referendum is also completely irrelevant to the Coronavirus crisis.

To slightly correct myself, it's irrelevant in the context that PP have brought it up. It's extremely relevant when it comes to the issue of us dedicating resources to a possible no-deal Brexit that should have been spent preparing for the pandemic we were warned was coming and told we were woefully unprepared for following the Cygnus exercise. But that's for another thread!

1066vegan · 24/05/2020 13:34

Those people excusing him on the grounds of him putting his child first or pleading for us to use our common sense are either unaware if or wilfully ignoring the fact that his wife has siblings who live in London.

The law says that DC and his family should have self-isolated in their London home.

Common sense dictates that they should have arranged for members of their London based extended family or London based friends to have dropped off shopping.

I'm also getting infuriated by the Tories who refer to a 4 year old as a toddler and who said that the child couldn't have dressed himself. What do they think happens in PE lesson in a Reception class?

ssd · 24/05/2020 13:42

As usual, Sadie is talking shite about Nicola Sturgeon. Sadie has her own agenda on here, and rubbishing the FM is at the top of her/his pile.

Nicola Sturgeon isn't perfect by any means but she's a damn sight better than anything in Westminster right now. She's consistently shown leadership and commitment. Johnson appears to have been furloughed and his cabinet are desperately backing a liar and a coward, who wants to pretend caring for his child by taking him on a 3 hours car journey with someone showing covid symptoms is acceptable.
But hey, let's all make reference to what we read on Facebook about wee nippy, much more topical. Not.

madroid · 24/05/2020 13:43

Can I also just remind people that Dominic Cummings is basically a civil servant.

He is appointed directly by the prime minister, but his wages are paid by you and me, the taxpayer.

We have a right to hold accountable public servants (even when their boss won't).

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Al1Langdownthecleghole · 24/05/2020 13:48

Boris really really really wanted power.

He might not be enjoying it right now, but I think he is way too ruthless to let DC take him down. Bye-bye Dom.

NorthernChinchilla · 24/05/2020 13:59

Unfortunately @StealthpolarBear we're at the other end of the country. If she dies I'll be there whatever it takes.
I just get so frustrated DC can fuck off to Durham (gorgeous place btw) and I have to sit here taking the calls from my disturbed/ confused Mum.
I've looked after my two kids with a range of bloody viruses, as has my DH, and worked, but he can't....

Opendraw · 24/05/2020 14:01

Would we notice if Boris went ? He is like the Scarlet Pimpernel 😂

chatterbugmegastar · 24/05/2020 14:33

Oh give it a fucking rest

The title of the post is very clear. If you aren't interested in the subject then go and read another post. Jeez Hmm

SomewhereEast · 24/05/2020 14:38

Much though I dislike BJ I don't see any point in him resigning. Whats the point of going through the utter distraction of a Tory leadership contest? Its not as if whoever replaces him will be an improvement. Like it or not (and I don't) the Tories won a solid majority at the last GE and are exceptionally good at clinging on to power.

slartibarti · 24/05/2020 14:42

I think Boris would love to go if a good excuse could be found, he didn't sign up for having to sort out a pandemic and make unpopular decisions. Perhaps he and Cummings are working out how to go out in a blaze of glory as we speak.

MintyChapstick · 24/05/2020 14:43

What annoys me is the way all of the cabinet have closed ranks to protect him. All saying the same thing, like they are following a script. You mean to tell me that not one of them think he’s done wrong? Obviously been told defend him or else, pathetic and spineless?

Oh and btw, to the bot up thread. My DM is a dyed in the wool Tory and thinks he should go, she also thinks Boris has been useless during this whole crisis.

Penners99 · 24/05/2020 14:46

Asking Boris to get rid of Dominic is like asking Emu to get rid of Rod Hull!

slartibarti · 24/05/2020 14:46

What annoys me is the way all of the cabinet have closed ranks to protect him

Unsurprising though. The tories have a big majority and Boris has already demonstrated that he can be ruthless and fire anyone who doesn't do what they're told.

ssd · 24/05/2020 14:48

Good on the Scottish corona virus briefing, just had a dig at Cummings, mentioning no names....

StealthPolarBear · 24/05/2020 14:51

slartibarti Thelma and Louise style?

user1471565182 · 24/05/2020 15:00

60,000 dead and the only respone tory voters can come up with is 'dont talk about it'. All you need to know about that mindset, right there

slartibarti · 24/05/2020 15:04

slartibarti Thelma and Louise style?

I'd prefer something jollier. They could channel Morcambe and Wise. A chorus of Give Me Sunshine then skip off together into the sunset.

Megatron · 24/05/2020 16:22

60,000 dead and the only respone tory voters can come up with is 'dont talk about it'. All you need to know about that mindset, right there

It's like a cult.

maresydoats · 24/05/2020 16:35

Wonder if Johnson had some kind of breakdown rather than C19. He looks glassy eyed as if he is on heavy psych meds these days. But I am only speculating as we are allowed to do that last time I looked.

Neither of them will go willingly. There is something very rotten about all this protection of our very own Rasputin. Anyway, off to the garden now with a large glass of Rosay (ha) for me. I'll raise my glass to all good citizens who sacrificed hell of a lot for the common good. We will not forget this.

SharonasCorona · 24/05/2020 16:39

No way would Sturgeon risk a haircut after what happened with Calderwood.

EsmeShelby · 24/05/2020 16:40

Boris has to sack him. If can't function with out Cummings to hold his hand he is too weak to do the job.

madroid · 24/05/2020 16:56

Boris to give the briefing in a minute...

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AKissAndASmile · 24/05/2020 16:59

Asking Boris to get rid of Dominic is like asking Emu to get rid of Rod Hull!
Why do people keep stealing this off Twitter and posting it like it's their original thought? 😂