Aibu to make my 'friend' move her horse from my field?

[lonelylou09]

Hi mum's netter.. Advice appreciated please.
5 year ago I was lucky enough to take over a field near my house for my horse. I was sharing with someone and then she moved so my best friend talked me into letting her put her horse in the field too.
To cut a long story short I was reluctant as she is very lazy and very tight with money even though she is much more well off than me financially. But she promised to pay her way and pull her weight.
So for 3 years it was just as if expected, with me doing all the work with both the field and the horses and also always having to chase her for money.
So last year I sold my horse and agreed that she could use the field for a year while it was still under my name. She paid the rent to the landlord in advance and moved a mutual friends horse in.
She knew I was devastated over selling my horse and I thought she would let me help out with hers as and when like I had before. I said to her that I would like some form of payment for items is bought but couldn't sell because her horse was using them... Fencing, watering equipment, gates ect.
She said she'd discuss it with her husband and let me know.
So a year down the line and she's not spoken to me once since the day my horse was sold, her husband has badgered me everytime I've seen him to sign the contract over to them while telling me they won't give me any money for any of my things as they are worthless or they have broken them anyway. The mutual friend who moved her horse in unfriended me at the same time and hasn't spoken to me since.
So... Am I being unreasonable to give them both their marching orders?!!
I wish to buy another horse and be in my field without people there how don't speak to me, don't look after their horses and will be a pain in the arse to get the money out of...
I've got other horse friends who will pay me that are no problem so it then won't cost me anything for my horse.
She has technically one week left that she has paid for even though she still owes me money from before.
Just wondering how others view this situation and how to go about telling her to sling her horses somewhere else.
Ta

Good idea to give a notice date, then as you say change locks and block entrances. Well done on having your paper work and estate agent messages ready incase they try and be spiteful and try blackmailing you into getting you in trouble.

@TorkTorkBam
Yep if I thought for one minute there would be a chance the horses would go out for exercise I'd keep watch. Sadly though I am still working at the moment so don't have that much free time.
But if one would go out I could catch the other and then relock the gate.

@stairgates. Luckily I was very thorough with it. Also got Facebook posts of when I've had tractors in the field to do work and photos of the work I've done weeding ect. So the estate agents are well aware I've done a lot of work there. So of they did try to be backhanded with it I could cite the fact that they have done nothing in there, not even general upkeep or care of their horses and show the difference between the field under my care and theirs. It could mean I'd lose my field but it would ensure they wouldn't be considered for the next tenancy

Just hand them notice, they may just leave no issues.
The land is in your name, there isn't much they can do about that.
Anything else can be dealt with after.

The fact they’ve put a new lock on tells you they have no intention of leaving and they know exactly that that’s what you’re going to ask them. Prepare for this to get sticky OP!

But stand firm! Let all your horsey network know, ask for help if you need it.

YANBU. Hand them notice but prepare for them to put up a fight it would seem.

Time to start spreading the word to the local gossips at how they are being CF using the field and refuse to speak to you anymore etc and how hurt you are and how much getting the field horse suitable cost.

This is a good idea.

I agree, hand them a notice. There is also legislation, The Control of Horses Act 2015 that you can use if you are in England. Under the legislation, you can give them four days notice to remove their horses. As they've paid to the end of the month, that means June 5 (so four clear days). On June 5, if they haven't removed their horses, cut the locks and call authorities. If you're seeing a solicitor to write a letter, you may want to point this out to them in the letter.

Wow what CFs
Yes give notice op and hold your head high

Time to start spreading the word to the local gossips at how they are being CF using the field and refuse to speak to you anymore etc and how hurt you are and how much getting the field horse suitable cost.

This.

The gossips are super bored in lockdown. They will love taking up the outrage baton on this one for you.

I would approach the EA but be careful how you phrase it. You agreed that person 3 could share the field temporarily while you were between horses. (As previously agreed you could do, dont quote emails at this stage) They would cover costs, so no profit, and keep up maintenance while you searched for the new horse. You have found they have not been keeping up the maintenance and that they are harming the field so you need them both out so it can be rested before you move a new horse in. You wanted to let the EA know what was happening but don't expect them to be bothered with it at all.

Be really open so you get them on side. When it goes wrong you will be very clearly the reliable party and so apologetic that they are having to get involved. You might be better off doing an email so you can tweak the wording. Once you have notified the EA (oh, you got your side in first? What a funny coincidence) send formal notice of the horses needing to be removed etc. And gossip away!

Good luck!

if they refuse sell the animals on!

Good luck doing that without access to the passports.

Put their animals outside your gates and forget them.

Fucks sake. These are living, breathing animals. Have some consideration for their welfare - they didn't ask to be caught up in this.

And what kind of idiot lets half tonne animals out on a public highway?

Could you get a bolt cutter on their lock and put your own on instead, exert some authority?
They are not friends they are CF's and you just give, give and give and they take.
I hope you can get this all sorted out soon.

I don’t think it’s time quite yet to bolt them into the field you want them out of?

Notice first

Then warning of what will happen (if they have not left by the date you state)

Then do whatever you said you would do. You could warn them that you will remove the gate as others have suggested or that the you have a tractor coming in to spray the field so they cannot have livestock in it or they will be injured by the spray and fumes so if they aren’t out by then the police will be involved?

i wouldnt bad mouth them yet either as if other yards catch wind of how horrible and lazy/selfish/inconsiderate they are then they won’t be allowed in any yards and you’ll never get rid of them!

I am not a horsey person - how much notice is reasonable in these types of cases? A month? OP has already checked that there is space at local stables so it really shouldn’t be a problem although I fear it will be with this awful bullies.

Don’t know who suggested spreading the word amongst the local gossips but I think that is an excellent idea.

Don’t gossip about them or put anything on social media about them. Just be super professional and courteous and give them notice with a time to be off and action you’ll take if they are not gone by that time. Using the excuse of spraying is a good one.
Take photos of how they are not looking after the place.
Get your own chains and padlocks ready.
Everything in writing, everything by recorded delivery.
Tell the EA/landlord that it needs spraying and that you’re organising/paying, and that you’re going to use the time it’s empty to do Maintenace, and list all the things you’re going to do (further evidence of what a great tenant you are).
Good luck OP & report back !

Jesus, give them to a horse charity and turn them loose out of the field, what bonkers deranged criminal advice some people are giving. They're not op's to give away, she doesn't have their paperwork, horse charities are busy and don't need to be put into the middle of a dispute. And the suggestion of letting them loose is disgusting, unsafe and cruel to animals. Fucks sake.

Op just needs to give notice and do it the right legal way and not be whipped up into a frenzy by foaming mouthed loons.

lou you really have to do this firmly and never ever do anything for these users again. The pain of standing up to them will be absolutely worth it when they are out of your life.

Can’t believe people are suggesting leaving the gate open for horses to wander and possible be killed/cause casualties in an accident. It’s not their fault their owners are shit

Any update OP?

Update, I've decided to get in touch with estate agents first and just be honest that I'm between horses at the moment and that I will be planning on arranging with my sharer to remove her horse soon so that I cna let the land rest and use the time it's empty to catch up with the chores.
This way if there are any issues with them not leaving or them using me not having a horse atm then I've already been upfront with estate agent. Also if there's any come back about field not looking good at the moment I can explain that.
Also want to make sure that before I go causing wars with said friends and putting more time and money into the field that I can get the contract extended following the year I've paid for.
I'll keep you updated. Off to email estate agents now.

Good luck OP

OP why is this this even a question? Give her the boot. Get a new horse and live a happy life.

Good solid plan

Give up to 7 days notice. Send recorded delivery! Add in that if not removed by that date you will view that as abandonment and will arrange to have the horses removed by a rescue or sold to recoup costs.
If on the date due to move they haven't gone you serve them with an abandonment notice and then follow the process through.

Good luck op. Hope you get rid of CFDA

Good luck!