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Aibu to make my 'friend' move her horse from my field?

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lonelylou09 · 23/05/2020 19:45

Hi mum's netter.. Advice appreciated please.
5 year ago I was lucky enough to take over a field near my house for my horse. I was sharing with someone and then she moved so my best friend talked me into letting her put her horse in the field too.
To cut a long story short I was reluctant as she is very lazy and very tight with money even though she is much more well off than me financially. But she promised to pay her way and pull her weight.
So for 3 years it was just as if expected, with me doing all the work with both the field and the horses and also always having to chase her for money.
So last year I sold my horse and agreed that she could use the field for a year while it was still under my name. She paid the rent to the landlord in advance and moved a mutual friends horse in.
She knew I was devastated over selling my horse and I thought she would let me help out with hers as and when like I had before. I said to her that I would like some form of payment for items is bought but couldn't sell because her horse was using them... Fencing, watering equipment, gates ect.
She said she'd discuss it with her husband and let me know.
So a year down the line and she's not spoken to me once since the day my horse was sold, her husband has badgered me everytime I've seen him to sign the contract over to them while telling me they won't give me any money for any of my things as they are worthless or they have broken them anyway. The mutual friend who moved her horse in unfriended me at the same time and hasn't spoken to me since.
So... Am I being unreasonable to give them both their marching orders?!!
I wish to buy another horse and be in my field without people there how don't speak to me, don't look after their horses and will be a pain in the arse to get the money out of...
I've got other horse friends who will pay me that are no problem so it then won't cost me anything for my horse.
She has technically one week left that she has paid for even though she still owes me money from before.
Just wondering how others view this situation and how to go about telling her to sling her horses somewhere else.
Ta

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matchboxtwentyunwell · 23/05/2020 20:41

She's not your friend. Tell her to go by the agreed date.

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 23/05/2020 20:43

I'm also wondering who owns the field?

category12 · 23/05/2020 20:43

Are you sure it's still in your name?

ChequerBoard · 23/05/2020 20:44

If 'friend' has paid the rent for the year to the landlord directly, how is the field anything to do with OP anymore?

What are the terms of the lease OP? Is it still in your name and for how long?

pictish · 23/05/2020 20:46

If it’s in your name get them both to fuck. They’re trying to keep your field.

nasalspray · 23/05/2020 20:46

The lease is almost up. You don't need the field. Dont renew. She has been paying landlord anyway so they can make their own arrangement going forward.

Floralnomad · 23/05/2020 20:50

I just feel sorry for the horses involved . Surely if she’s been paying the landlord the rent then the field is hers .

diddl · 23/05/2020 20:53

Any chance that she will try to come to an arrangement with the owner of the field when her year is up?

BumbleBeee69 · 23/05/2020 21:01

Get them out TODAY.. cheeky bastards

just be careful she doesn't make a deal with the landlord behind your back

HeyHoLetsGoAgain · 23/05/2020 21:03

County court for damages to your property.
Then remove/sell everything you own.

NoProblem123 · 23/05/2020 21:03

I’m also confused....
When I first read this I thought you’d sub-let the field but now I’ve read it again it seems that the landlord has let it to the friend as she paid them ‘direct in advance’ so landlord knows they are there, has agreed to it, and taken her money, and presumably the friends money too.
Surely the contract in that case (verbal or written) is between her and the landlord and you’re not in a position to tell her to sling it.
Or have I misunderstood.

lonelylou09 · 23/05/2020 21:04

Hi sorry to confuse you all and thanks so much for your responses.
To try to clarify I had a 1 year grazing licence for the first year after which I was offered a 5 year farm business tenancy. This being the final year of the 5.
The tenancy is in my name and although it states no subletting I did have the contract amended to cover sharing with a friend as the field would be too big for one horse alone. The contact I have is through an estate agent acting on behalf of the landlord.
So last year I knew I was selling my horse around the date the next years rent was due and was unwilling to pay when I didn't have a horse and it would of left her horse nowhere to go. They said they would pay as they wanted the field to themselves. They were meant to pay me but left it til the last day so I had to get them to pay the estate agent instead so it woukd go through on time.
From what I understand for the contract I have to give a years notice in writing so even if I wanted to give notice I haven't been able to until now really and the was also no guarantee they would be able to renew as new tenants.
I've worked so hard and put so much money in to this field and I'm angry that they think I'll just let them benefit from my labour and money and treat me this way.

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ScarletFever · 23/05/2020 21:07

Well give them notice? I dont understand what the problem is. They're not your friends

FeelingTheBurn · 23/05/2020 21:09

I think you should just tell them your arrangement no longer stands and their horses are not welcome in the field anymore. But bear in mind it may take longer than a week for them to find somewhere to put their horses at the moment. (although that's not really your problem!)

lonelylou09 · 23/05/2020 21:12

So not sure if the landlord would class that as subletting? As It wasn't for the use of making money.
I also understand that unless the landlord gives me a years notice in writing the contract would have to be renewed. So far he hasn't.
She said she wouldn't speak to me about it because it made her anxious but everytime I see her husband he badgers me to give up the field and it makes me feel sick with nerves.
Although we were best friends We drifted apart because of other things going on similar to this and me wising up to the fact that they are always out for themselves.
I lent them a washing machine as theirs had broken. Was meant to be for a week while they went on holiday. It took me a year of asking for it back before they finally gave in and gave me some money for it.

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lonelylou09 · 23/05/2020 21:13

Yes I wasn't sure what notice would be fair but there is a stables not far from me that have spaces at the moment.. I've already checked 🤣🤣

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lonelylou09 · 23/05/2020 21:18

I don't know whether the landlord would be aware.. Unless they made the estate agents aware themselves... That the money had come from someone else. It just goes into the account. There's nothing in writing between my friend and myself to say she could be in there.
If they wanted to be complete arses about it then they could contact the estate agents and complain and or refuse to leave the field.
My worry is more that they won't leave as I'm not sure it something the police would deal with at the moment

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slashlover · 23/05/2020 21:20

I'd double check that the contract isn't one years notice to break the contract and that it is automatically renewed, especially with it being amended.

So last year I knew I was selling my horse around the date the next years rent was due and was unwilling to pay when I didn't have a horse and it would of left her horse nowhere to go.

Does this mean you were going to break the contract with the landlord?

ChickenyChick · 23/05/2020 21:21

you are being bullied by this lot, these are not friends.

If you are too nice, easily persuaded/bullied get someone to back you up when you tell them it's game over

good luck and be strong!

BumbleBeee69 · 23/05/2020 21:22

serve notice OP.. this couple are trying to bully you into submitting the field over to you... get your big girl pants on and serve them notice. You will feel tenfold better Flowers

lonelylou09 · 23/05/2020 21:28

@slashlover no I would of paid it myself and honoured the contract. Even if I'd just left It rest and used it to walk the dogs in. But they were badgering me then about what would happen to their horse and wanting the field so I tried to do the best by my friend while also saving myself from losing more money
They haven't done any work in the field or invested in anything since that they would lose out on now.

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lonelylou09 · 23/05/2020 21:32

@BumbleBeee69.. Yes definitely feel bullied over it. I kept a record of how much everything had cost that I had put into the field and it was a lot, hardstanding and rubber mats for winter. They said they wouldn't pay me for the mats as I wouldn't be able to remove them. I'd kept them clean and clear but they let the weeds grow up through them

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BumbleBeee69 · 23/05/2020 21:42

OP you will feel better getting rid of them honestly .. they have shown you no respect despite every courtesy you have given them.. you don't need people like that in your life Flowers

Sillyscrabblegames · 23/05/2020 21:44

Just tell them to leave. You won't be losing out on anything as they clearly aren't friends.

Aclh13 · 23/05/2020 21:45

You need a lawyer or legal advisor as most of what you have just said would be illegal to put in a contract and the basis would be illegal to even start a contract, you have a contract for sharing not subletting which is a whole different ballgame. I would begin to get legal advice and give notice immediately to your friend and then seek to take action with the EA.

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