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To be annoyed that not all year 6 children that want to return to school can?

279 replies

spongebunnyfatpants · 18/05/2020 17:46

This is not a teacher or school bashing thread, I'm just interested in people's thoughts.

My child is in year 6, we have just been informed that out of a class of 30 only 10 children will be allowed to return to school because they don't have the staff to provide for any more.

These 10 children will be chosen on a first come first served basis, we have to email if we want our child to return.

This means that some children who want to return won't be able to.

AIBU to think that this is very unfair and that part time schooling for more groups would be more appropriate rather than one group in all the time.

OP posts:
antipodalpizza · 19/05/2020 08:01

My DC's school will find it hard to sort out how staff can go to the toilet. During the day there will be two staff who will be greeting the children (at staggered times), supervising the children in the classroom, at break (staggered times), setting out lunch, supervising lunch, clearing up lunch (whilst supervising children), supervising children in the classroom and in between that they will be wiping down anything that needs doing.
Their one and only staff toilet is upstairs and nowhere near the classrooms. My friend who works there has been coming home having not had anything to eat, drink or been to the toilet all day.

Sweetpea84 · 19/05/2020 08:04

If my son goes back to the school nursery and they want to keep the numbers down I would hope they prioritise the kids moving up to reception and who attend to go to the school. We have a lot of kids who come to the nursery as their preferred school doesn’t have one and then bugger off for reception they should not be allowed to return of places are limited.

funinthesun19 · 19/05/2020 08:12

That’s really unfair op. I think a fairer way would be to just get every child’s name in a hat and pull 10 names out. Not make it a race between the parents about who can send an email first. They’d feel so guilty if they weren’t quick enough.

What are the government’s reasons for choosing Reception and Year 1 children to go back first?
Genuine question this because I have a ds in Reception and I’m still unsure. I was surprised they picked the little ones to back first. I get year 6 and year 10 though.

canigooutyet · 19/05/2020 08:14

Finland started to open schools last week. By the weekend, a number of staff and students we isolating at home. Iirc there was also primary school mentioned.

Daffodil101 · 19/05/2020 08:16

I volunteered to help in my child’s primary. So has a friend. Neither of us received a response.

GrimmsFairytales · 19/05/2020 08:36

I volunteered to help in my child’s primary. So has a friend. Neither of us received a response.

They are probably very busy trying to plan for the staggered return of more pupils. Volunteering is very kind but it's just not practical for additional people to be on site at the minute.

Piggywaspushed · 19/05/2020 08:56

Volunteers are not in the DfE guidance.

Any extra staff are expected to be found from other schools/ elsewhere within MATs. Then if 'all avenues are exhausted' , schools are supposed to contact LEA/ DfE .

Piggywaspushed · 19/05/2020 08:57

What, out of interest, do you think a volunteer would achieve or be able to do daffodil? You wouldn't be allowed to be alone with students so you wouldn't add any extra teaching capacity. In the nicest possible way, you'd just be an extra body increasing risk, not decreasing it.

lilgreen · 19/05/2020 09:01

Not sure what volunteers could do.Though the gesture is noble, it’s rather insulting to teachers.

derxa · 19/05/2020 09:10

Sorry I don't believe this

CallmeAngelina · 19/05/2020 09:33

Our school closed to all external visitors at the beginning of March. When we open next week, parents are not to enter the building, but drop and run at the gate.
Why would you think they'd allow volunteers in?

Parker231 · 19/05/2020 09:34

Just seen my neighbour - her DS is in Reception. 22 out of the 26 in his class are going back. She hasn’t told her DS yet in case everything changes as he is desperate to go back to school. She’s not heard back from her DD’s nursery yet. This is centrally London- don’t know whether the responses are different in different parts of the country.

CallmeAngelina · 19/05/2020 09:37

The greater the numbers of people sending their children back, the lower the likelihood of them getting full-time provision.

lilgreen · 19/05/2020 09:52

6 out of 15 year 6 at our school.

begoniapot · 19/05/2020 09:58

I think this should be across the board, with children attending set days, so reducing class sizes. Fairer for all

GreenTulips · 19/05/2020 10:14

I think it's a bit odd choosing year 6. My son is a yr 6 and I think the opportunity for yr 5s to settle back into school would make more sense than year 6 because he is going somewhere else in september anyway

The year 6 parents were the most vocal about their children missing out in end of term parties assemblies trips and farewell to friends and staff.

This is why they got picked

x2boys · 19/05/2020 10:15

I don't understand why year six are priority anyway ,my son is in year 8 now ,but his last half term in year six after sats was all about leaving activities ,they had an activity day,s leaving meal ,d's had a few extra visits to his current high school as he struggles academically and they thought it would benefit ,they also had a McDonald's lunch, and the end of term production ,very little learning went on.

Piggywaspushed · 19/05/2020 10:20

Blame the government : their decision, actually after hearing how many parents (and schools ) were anxious about lack of transition.

Cynically... statistically, there is an attainment drop after transfer. if the DfE knows no year 6s will be off on jollys the school will be required to fill this time drilling the kids in the basics for 'secondary readiness'.

drspouse · 19/05/2020 10:46

My DD's HT has worked out that to return as suggested by the government (15 per room in Y1 and Y6, 8 per room in EYFS) they need 24 classrooms (PAN of 60 with about that number in nursery). As a nursery+primary they can't do that so they are rethinking and waiting for information on 28th May before deciding on ANYTHING.
So YABU, this is an impossible position for the HTs and they just have to make decisions based on what they can do.

strugglingwithdeciding · 19/05/2020 11:26

@itsasunnynday totally uncalled for remark isn't it
My concern is if we are still living with this in sept (likely will schools still not want to go back ?
I have said before poilcemen , social workers , prison officers will all be working with people who won't social distance and may not all follow great hygiene and I haven't heard much complaining from them
Surely going back with a few year groups is a way to see how it can possibly work or what needs to be implemented in the futurw
It's not compulsory to send but don't knock people for there decision on wether they want to send or not ? They are their children and quite frankly it's none of other people's business

strugglingwithdeciding · 19/05/2020 11:29

Why can't secondary schools allow small groups of year 6'a to have transition days
Out secondary has hardly any keyworker children in and year 10's have been told they will just get some teacher time
There are loads of classrooms and teachers in secondary surely to have small groups of 10 year 6's just in for day wouldn't be an issue so they are at least familiar with their new school

strugglingwithdeciding · 19/05/2020 11:31

@seasofchange maybe you should keep your judgement to yourself

strugglingwithdeciding · 19/05/2020 11:34

Also from these threads it seems teachers have more shielding people than any other profession ?

strugglingwithdeciding · 19/05/2020 11:36

I also thought children were being diagnosed with a like Kawasaki disease not the disease it self ?
Kawasaki been around along time my nephew had it 20 years ago and it's very serious
Also in paper I read 100 in uk then 100 in Europe ? Which is actually true does anyone have some solid links ?

strugglingwithdeciding · 19/05/2020 11:39

Also meanwhile we all seem quite happy for our keyworker children to go in and take the risk