To be annoyed that not all year 6 children that want to return to school can?

[spongebunnyfatpants]

This is not a teacher or school bashing thread, I'm just interested in people's thoughts.

My child is in year 6, we have just been informed that out of a class of 30 only 10 children will be allowed to return to school because they don't have the staff to provide for any more.

These 10 children will be chosen on a first come first served basis, we have to email if we want our child to return.

This means that some children who want to return won't be able to.

AIBU to think that this is very unfair and that part time schooling for more groups would be more appropriate rather than one group in all the time.

I font know uf thst was meant to be sarcastic struggling but to answer your query TAs in particular have a higher than average representation in vulnerable groups.

I have said before poilcemen , social workers , prison officers will all be working with people who won't social distance and may not all follow great hygiene and I haven't heard much complaining from them

These are all services that ‘need’ to continue. I didn’t hear many teachers complaining about being in school with keyworker children over the last couple of months because this was necessary. I don’t believe every child in reception, year 1 and Year 6 ‘needs’ to go back to school more than we ‘need’ to see what happens for a while longer. I think we should be protecting anyone that we possibly can at the moment.

@GreenTulips *
The year 6 parents were the most vocal about their children missing out in end of term parties assemblies trips and farewell to friends and staff.

This is why they got picked*

Do these parents actually think these things are going to happen?

@strugglingwithdeciding 260 cases in Europe, including uk

@strugglingwithdeciding

www.societi.org.uk/kawasaki-disease-and-covid-19/

@rabbitintintheheadlights thanks for the link

@piggywaspushed no but meant to be sarcastic just on here seems loads say 3/4 staff is shielding yet in real life the teachers I know don't seem to have as high levels in their schools

New report on paper today saying Europe not seeing rates up due to return to school ??

European countries which are open have nothing like the infection rates and often had total shutdown before.

I can't link to figures but something like 30 % of TAs are in vulnerable groups.

25 % of teachers are either shielded, vulnerable,or live with someone who is. I realise some of these may well come in to the workplace.

Comparing us to other countries is like when a magician distracts you during a trick.

Why are people accepting there's 10 spaces?

They may have daily availability to accept 10 children but that equates to 50 spaces.

First come first served is unfair.

We got a letter stating they would be contacting us all in a few days and asking specific questions which we were given in advance. We were then told they'd have to sort out a plan based on that data. And that may include part time

Struggling there was actually an article (independent I think?) to say france had seen 70 cases directly linked to schools since opening on Monday. But they have opened every year group in green areas including secondary from what I understood

@HalfOfWhoIUsedToBe i thought education and teachers were key workers. Essential. I think it's essential that we strive to provide the best education we can for our kids.

The current home working set up is a temporary solution. It's clear from numerous posts on here that provision is patchy, which means standard of education is patchy. We can deal with that for the short term, but we are potentially looking at a fairly long period of time.

If a return to school is not going to be viable for the masses by September, then the online provision will need an overhaul. This is not a criticism of the teaching profession, just reality.

The current situation is obviously stressful and difficult for teachers and parents. Although some kids are getting excellent support, for numerous reasons others are not.

Just seen the email my neighbour has had from her DS school. Staggered start times, maximum of 15 in a class but will be with their friends. Year 1 are having a Year 2 teacher which I thought a good idea as she will be their teacher in September. They have said school will be different but they will make it fun, caring and educational for everyone. It was a lovely email - well done to the headteacher putting so much effort into it.

If it's so important getting some years back ( we know the reasons why ) then why is it only important for some children to go back?
Surely the government must realise a lot of these new rules are really unworkable and lots of schools won't have the space or the staff to implement it all? Hence many will miss out anyway by the sounds of things.
I know I sound negative but I am beginning to think they need a different plan or need to use different buildings or do something else?
Use the libraries or church halls?
I don't know but I know it'll be hard.

It is ridiculously unworkable , yes...

@Piggywaspushed France aren't that much different to us especially when you take into account different reporting etc
It's another 2 weeks nearly away out infections fingers crossed will be down by then if not it may not happen anyway
For now I would expect there to be more infections etc on some ways as more testing takes place and we have tested a lot more than France for example

Our school says you have to attend every day and it’s full days from mon- Thursday.
Shame they can’t alternate but seems a lot of hassle

No, France aren't, true. Everywhere else is, though.

France are not opening full time in the same way as we plan ,and were never open during the lockdown at all AFAIK.

Ds has been offered 2 days a week from June 1st, would like more but I trust school and the management team as I'm sure they've got plenty more information than me about safety etc.
Dh is an essential worker so we could apply for more but they've had over 100 requests for 60 key worker places so I am not applying for one since we can manage without it.
Whatever schools do people will want more/something different

@itsgettingweird

They may have daily availability to accept 10 children but that equates to 50 spaces.

Do you mean 50 spaces if the school accept 10 children each day, rather than the same 10 everyday? We are advised not to see different set of pupils on each day, as that exposes the teacher to 50+ kids (10 each school day if each set did 1 day during the week) rather than the consistent 'bubble' of 10-15. I'm a teacher and whilst I'm prepared to return and provide childcare (because, that's essentially what it'll be - not necessarily 'teaching') for the 10 pupils in my 'bubble' I don't feel comfortable with seeing potentially 50 pupils in one week.

@strugglingwithdeciding I think keyworker uptake of school places has been quite low which says a lot

I think it depends on where the schools are. Those near hospitals with key workers sending their DC’s to the local schools have been well attended.

Yes mummy I realised after I'd typed it I'd missed out a word or 2 but thought people would get what I mean! If they only have 10 spaces then surely that's 10 per day and so essentially 50 spaces over a week. It should be keyworkers and vulnerable first and those who have continued but equal opportunities for rest of children.

Our school have been clear that every child who wants one will be offered a place. But the more people who take a place then the less we will be able to offer full time.

Sorry pressed send before I'd finished.

I understand why you'd want same teacher and pupils per day and do think that's how it should work. But also their should be social distancing and PPE Menai g that in fact the risk of infection shouldn't be greater. And that's where the government are getting it wrong.