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To think it's ridiculous that Scotland is still in full lockdown..

417 replies

YouHurtMeSoMuch · 18/05/2020 13:05

And no change before the 28th. What the hell is Nichola Sturgeon thinking?!

OP posts:
Babdoc · 18/05/2020 14:25

It makes no sense - Sturgeon is saying the Scots are too stupid to safely play golf while distancing, whereas English people can manage it fine. And we’re too stupid to space out on a riverbank to go fishing.
She’s also happy for Scottish garden centres to go bankrupt while English ones a mile away across the border are opening outdoor areas safely with regulated customer numbers. 60% of the whole year’s business for garden centres is in May - Scottish ones will lose their entire stock, while Sturgeon allows bloody supermarkets to sell plants!
Logic has never been a strong point with the SNP.

LagunaBubbles · 18/05/2020 14:26

The cult of the SNP? Yeh right. Im just an ordinary working Scottish Mum who is also a Nurse. Not interested in a "cult". Some people will just never accept that they are the Scottish Gov. And I'm certainly not interested in anyone that can't even call her by her name and not some stupid nickname.

LellyMcKelly · 18/05/2020 14:26

Nope. Nicola Sturgeon has her head screwed on. It’s telling that even Arlene Foster wouldn’t follow Boris Johnson’s lead and she normally follows him round like a lapdog, nor did the Welsh FM. England is on its own here.

SomeoneElse1 · 18/05/2020 14:29

The media have created a massive amount of hysteria over COVID.

Yes, people are dying and any death is one too many.

But if you read the press, or MN, or social media you would imagine that everyone who contracts COVID is going to die when in fact this is far from the case.

You could also be forgiven for thinking that we went into lockdown in order to eradicate the virus,we didn’t.We went into lockdown in order to be sure the NHS could cope. And it is.

If the NHS in Scotland isn’t coping then why are people not asking the kinds of questions they have been asking of Boris,i.e. talking about how she has failed the Scottish people,how the Scottish death rate is still rising and why the Scottish NHS is failing to cope.If England were still in complete lockdown you can bet your life that people would be saying those things.

Yes,a lockdown needed to happen,although interestingly there are some countries e.g. Sweden who have managed without going into lockdown, but equally the economy does still need to be supported. Anyone who says that the government are prioritising the economy over lives is being incredibly short-sighted. COVID is a short term thing. And actually,if no vaccine is found it will be a longer term virus in which case being in lockdown will be unsustainable in the medium/long term and there will come a time when wee need to take our chances against the virus.

People need to work,need to eat, need to support their families,and they need social contact. And as harsh as it sounds there comes a point where we need to weigh up the needs of the few against the needs of the many. And while people don’t want to believe it, the few are actually those with COVID. Even with high numbers the proportion of people with COVID is very low when compared to the UK population as a whole.

If we stay in lockdown the unemployment rate will far exceed the COVID infection rate.

There has to be a balance.

ChangeThePassword · 18/05/2020 14:30

😂😂😂

You started a thread in AIBU just because you are frustrated with Sturgeon and wanted to express that?

In AIBU.

And you don't want to engage with people that say you are wrong, unless it's something very basic?

It's not me that's lacking common sense here.

amber763 · 18/05/2020 14:30

Well luckily for the rest of us, people like the OP and angry Cheekychops73 who is furious she can't go out and get on the bus are very much in the minority. I get that it's hard especially as a carer however England is the only country in a union of 4 who have eased restrictions at the moment. You guys should have got yourselves down to Glasgow Green to shout and bawl with the 20 or so idiots there at the weekend.

Lynda07 · 18/05/2020 14:31

I think Nicola Sturgeon, whatever anyone thinks of her, is being cautious and sensible in this instance. I wish we had such decisive leadership down here in London!

In any case the 28th - I haven't read the news today & am presuming is 28th May - is only ten days away.

Far better to be safe than sorry.

StoorieHoose · 18/05/2020 14:33

Yep only 10 days away and at the end of the 3 week period. Nothing has changed from a week and a bit ago but because England has eased up, people expected her to follow suit today. I look forward the threads about Wales and NI staying in lockdown .....

amber763 · 18/05/2020 14:34

@TheMagiciansMewTwo 😂😂😂 your post made me laugh so much!!

ThePerfectPintOfIceColdBeer · 18/05/2020 14:35

I'm Scottish, fed up just the same as most of us, but glad Nicola Sturgeon has kept us in full lockdown. Our R number is higher, after all.

Lynda07 · 18/05/2020 14:38

England is the only country in a union of 4 who have eased restrictions at the moment.

I heard from someone, I think it was on Friday, after we'd been told that lockdown was 'easing', that loads of people were out and about and we were allowed to go out and mix more, etc. That's in London. I got that from someone who has been self isolating apart from going to supermarket, essentials, etc, since it first started having been sent home from France in February.

I'm glad to say he was still being careful but he did go shopping to a different place than usual (to avoid queues), and passed through the village near where I live, seeing plenty of people milling around and plenty of cars on the road just like 'normal'.

Nicola Sturgeon is giving good advice. Whilst it may be unpalatable to some it will save lives. Even a few lives. In my opinion, worth the sacrifice, hard though it is for many (and I am not insensitive to the struggle some people are having with lockdown).

TheMagiciansMewTwo · 18/05/2020 14:38

You guys should have got yourselves down to Glasgow Green to shout and bawl with the 20 or so idiots there at the weekend
What I find fascinating is the posters putting hours into threads on MN telling us that lockdown needs to be lifted, that everyone staying home is a lazy scrounger, that Boris is wonderful and Nicola Sturgeon isn't ... yet none of them actually believe enough in what they're saying to have attended the rallies.
I'm glad they didn't add to the burden on the NHS but it does make me question the integrity of their posts and the sincerity of their views.

secretdoubleagent · 18/05/2020 14:38

Nope I live in Scotland and support her 100% would also like to point out that I am not an SNP supporter in anyway shape or form.

Yes I am thoroughly fed up, having 2 kids (1 and 3) I would love to let them go to the park and to see their grandparents etc. However there is no way that I want to rush back to normal! The virus hasn't gone away, as soon as you give folk an inch it'll go crazy again.

Better to stay lockdown for longer now than to go back into lockdown because of a second wave.

sonicshoegazes · 18/05/2020 14:39

Everywhere should still be in full lockdown. Until there's a vaccine and fewer deaths.

One death is one too many.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 18/05/2020 14:39

Well she's certainly politicking, I'll give her that.

LastTrainEast · 18/05/2020 14:40

YouHurtMeSoMuch why have lockdown when relatively few are in ICU. Well that is why so few are in ICU ffs. What did you think the lockdown was for? Did no one explain it to you? It's been on TV and everything.

MorrisZapp · 18/05/2020 14:42

That's a joke, surely? Nobody sane is going to rallies just now. You can despair of the government without breaking the current rules and attending a bizarre, tiny 'protest' event.

BlueGheko · 18/05/2020 14:42

Meanwhile people get progressively more depressed and unhealthy sitting at home

'some' people. Please don't speak for everyone. Personally I've never been fitter or felt so well mentally due having more time to exercise/relax. It's been a relief getting off the treadmill of life for a while to many I'm sure. There's really no need for people to get unhealthy, personal choices.

StoorieHoose · 18/05/2020 14:42

I can well believe that some of those zoomers at Glasgow Green read MN. Worms and jam pieces and magic ingredients in Irn Bru Grin

EstherEliza · 18/05/2020 14:43

The R rate in Scotland is higher, so it's not ridiculous, it's sensible.

Chloemol · 18/05/2020 14:44

Having seen the amount of posts on here about breaking what little extra we can do in England I wish we were still on full lockdown. I am waiting for the second lockdown now because lots now thing it’s go out and meet whoever you want time

StoorieHoose · 18/05/2020 14:45

Well she's certainly politicking, I'll give her that.

Are you saying that NI & Wales are doing that too?

MrsLangOnionsMcWeetabix · 18/05/2020 14:46

That's a joke, surely? Nobody sane is going to rallies just now. You can despair of the government without breaking the current rules and attending a bizarre, tiny 'protest' event

Exactly! You can, however, start going out more, meeting people etc etc which is exactly what people in my town are doing.

awaynboilyurheid · 18/05/2020 14:47

I think she has adopted a calm measured approach , we are behind in the covid infection rate and it will spread upwards At the moment Cumbria is one of the worst hit just over the border, Nicola is right to wait a bit longer, you are not fighting in the trenches Just stay at home.

HirplesWithHaggis · 18/05/2020 14:47

MorrisZapp

We can't afford furlough on our own so Rishi will be making that call.

Whatever happened to "pooling and sharing"? Scots to be starved back to work. How very Empire.