To ask whether anyone who voted Conservative regrets it now?

[Lifestyleinlondon88]

I would very curious to see if anyone would have voted differently, or if they had the chance to change their vote now would you?

Labour would have nee worse.

That's a matter of opinion and conjecture.
We'll never know.

Not convinced Corbyn would have gone about shaking hands while numbers were rising exponentially. In fact, did he?

But had Corbyn handled this half as bad as Johnson, both Labour and Conservative voters would have been much more critical of him than they are now of Johnson.

Don't they have Labour in charge in Wales? How's that working out?

@caringcarer
So your sons wouldn't have survived on UC which is the benefits system Tories brought in, but is changing to vote Tories in the future?! So have they considered what might happen in the future if they lost jobs and were forced to live on a system they couldn't survive on?!
Madness

@moonmelodies yes Labour are in charge of the NHS in a part of the UK with some major socio-economic disadvantages, poverty and decades of under investment. But sure, roll out the old “what about Wales” stuff!

I think you are wasting your time OP, no matter how royally BJ fucks up they all have their crystal balls to KNOW that JC would have been worse...that's the mentality your dealing with

@kissmewherethesundontshine as opposed to the mentality that no matter what happens JC could have done a better job? That is called hypocrisy

@keepingitschtum
Well how can anyone say that 🤣🤣 I don't have a crystal ball, perhaps I can borrow yours?!

My point is, BJ has massively fucked up, and the responses on here are hilarious how can anyone predict what JC (or anyone else for that matter) would have done?! As if it makes it ok hes fucked up because someone else would have fucked up worse?!

as opposed to the mentality that no matter what happens JC could have done a better job?

Except literally nobody’s said that. Corbyn only made an appearance on this thread when we got the tired old Tory response “What about Corbyn ...” This thread’s about Johnson’s many fuck ups.

And that @Alsohuman is your opinion. Fortunately most of the country disagrees with you as per the last election 😄

Opinion’s changed pretty radically on the handling of Covid.

mobile.twitter.com/OpiniumResearch/status/1261735078868193282

thankfully the Tories stepped in with furlough because her son couldn’t have survived under the UC regime.

So is (not sure who said it first) that saying poor people can't survive on UC? Thankfully this person's son didn't have to claim it and so he's now going to vote Tory? Despite the Tories being the architects of UC and pushing poor people into unsurvivable (as they say) poverty?

@kendodd yes that’s what I said. The poster’s son had seemingly realised that they could not survive on UC and yet decided to vote Tory at the next election.

I keep wondering what would make them stop too. Directive to slaughter first born? I’m married to one and watching his mental gymnastics and squirming as he seeks to defend them would be comical if it weren’t so tragic.

Boris has basically said they're going to spend their way out of a CV recession, austerity is now a dirty word in number 10 apparently. This is pretty much what Corbyn was saying should have been done to tackle the banking crisis. I am watching with interest to see what the die hard say about it

If it’s true then I think he inherited his intelligence from his mother.

But had Corbyn handled this half as bad as Johnson, both Labour and Conservative voters would have been much more critical of him than they are now of Johnson.

I hope they would all be critical, and rightly so. Also, can you imagine the press and Tory public if Corbyn had introduced the furlough scheme and lockdown!

In other news for anyone who might be interested. I've finished painting the bathroom! Paint splash damage was a bit more extensive than originally thought but I think I've cleaned it all up.

Literally only checking this thread for an update ken. Glad you are feeling better and have finished the painting.

@TheSandman and you'll never change my mind, and as a labour voter that kills you 😂😂

Why would it 'kill' me? I'm not a Labour voter. I haven't voted for them since they dropped the commitment to nuclear disarmament and eviscerated Clause Four. You have a vastly overrated opinion of yourself if you think I actually give a shit about your opinions but please, do keep on expressing them in the way you do. You're doing a sterling job of making die-hard Tory voters look like the prats.

In other news for anyone who might be interested. I've finished painting the bathroom! Paint splash damage was a bit more extensive than originally thought but I think I've cleaned it all up Great news. Much more interesting than people growling at each other.

Also, can you imagine the press and Tory public if Corbyn had introduced the furlough scheme and lockdown!

Oh, yes. Communist, red, ruining the country...

Just adding to earlier in the thread, a couple of graphs with data from ECDC.

In addition to total numbers and numbers per million, compare the increase rate for cases and deaths in European countries.
I left a linear scale because the softer inclination in a logarithmic scale makes it less obvious.
Most countries are levelling up the number of both cases and deaths, which means most have small increases daily.
The odd one out is the UK, which is still rising linearly instead of slowing down. (and Russia, but that's a whole novel by itself)

Sorry, the second graph, with no title is deaths

I wish more had voted for Labour.

I voted SNP. I wanted a temp Lab/SNP/Lib/Green/Ind coalition govt who would have organised a 2nd brexit referendum and after that had a proper campaign for a non-brexit-focused government.

Obviously, it wouldn't have happened like that as Covid came along, but I do believe that between the coalition leaders, those in Westminster would have followed the science and acted cautiously and quickly. More lives would have been saved.

But no, the English wanted Boris Johnson and his cabinet of horrors.

I wanted a temp Lab/SNP/Lib/Green/Ind coalition govt

Most people’s idea of hell, I’m afraid. And why exactly would a temporary government of 4 or 5 leaders and a shedload of backseat drivers have been any better at decision-making?

Most people’s idea of hell, I’m afraid. And why exactly would a temporary government of 4 or 5 leaders and a shedload of backseat drivers have been any better at decision-making?

As I said, it would have been a temporary coalition to get a 2nd brexit referendum through, which I believe would have clarified what sort of government was required for the future.

I reckon that a group of sensible adults (Sturgeon, Starmer/Corbyn etc) round a table would have come to a more cautious and sensible concensus about how to deal with Covid. They would certainly have put lives before millionaires and their money.

Instead, there's Johnson and his parliament of liars, drug-takers, hypocrites and cheats who are taking their orders from Dominic Cummings.

That's my idea of hell.