To ask whether anyone who voted Conservative regrets it now?

[Lifestyleinlondon88]

I would very curious to see if anyone would have voted differently, or if they had the chance to change their vote now would you?

Lweji
Even looking at excess deaths, England and Wales are doing poorly. Including in deaths not attributed to covid.

Excess mortality from the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19) -

"There is no publicly available international database on excess mortality."

"International organizations are not publishing an international database on excess mortality."

"Unlike statistics on confirmed COVID-19 deaths–for which several organizations such as the WHO, ECDC and Johns Hopkins University are collating data for all countries–there is no single source of data on excess mortality."

"This is a major problem for policymakers, researchers, and the general public that has a need to understand the ongoing pandemic."

"The media is keeping their databases private–it can neither be scrutinized, nor can it be used by others."

"Several media publications have began publishing excess death visualizations for some countries."

^"Unfortunately, to date, no publication has published this data, instead it is only published in data visualizations.This means that no one can scrutinize the data that is presented and it cannot be relied upon by policymakers, researchers, and the public in their effort to understand and respond to the pandemic."

ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

Although some researchers have already noted:

*Some of the FT’s published P-scores look unreliable as the data and graphics do not match.

If you were the PM op what would you be doing about the current situation?

Indeed, there's no definitive data.
I don't argue fine points on the data, but rather look at the general trends.

I don't think you can find any evidence that the UK, or rather England and Wales, are doing well at all, on the contrary.
The weight of the data points towards doing badly among European countries.

And if we're looking at how governments have behaved, it's even worse.
Boris was reckless and got infected himself, fgs.
His latest messages regarding deconfinement have been laughed out and not only in the UK.

Also I think he [Corbyn] would have copied other countries in checks on air passengers and closing routes.

Jeremy Corbyn Feb 13/14

"I've come to Chinatown here in Manchester, a city that has been twinned with Wuhan for 33 years. We stand in solidarity with the Chinese community."

Probably not a wise decision.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/03/restaurants-are-no-longer-empty-visitors-slowly-return-to-uks-chinatowns

@TheSandman because voting labour is the most idiotic thing I could ever think to do.

@TheSandman because voting labour is the most idiotic thing I could ever think to do.

And there you are... Binary Tory thinking in a nutshell. No Alternative! No Surrender! Us Vs Them!

Binary Tory thinking in a nutshell. No Alternative! No Surrender! Us Vs Them!

Oh the irony.

Lots of assumptions about what Corbyn would have done.
None of use knows how he would have coordinated a response to this. But it’s most likely, I would think, that he would have done things like listen to advice from the banks, science, medicine, education etc. and made informed decisions like you’d expect a leader to do.

Corbyn was no leader.

Oh the irony.

? Explain?

@ITonyah
Scotland?!
Wow
Gee thanks for that insightful comment.

Dh and I both voted Conservative. Both adult sons living at home voted Labour. Dh and I would vote Conservative again. Both sons now after being furloughed, although one back at work now are dtating they will vote Conservative next time. We were all discussing this the other evening. One son stated he would not have been able to keep up car payments unless furloughed. He is working again now but he was very grateful for furlough payment as he would omly get about £80 a week if on UC. We now all agree Corbyn would have been a disaster. Frost is doing brilliantly in EU negotiations and we dread to think what Cirbyn would have done on Brexit.

Labour may well have brought in UBI as in Spain which would have been even better than furlough for your sons.

@TheSandman and you'll never change my mind, and as a labour voter that kills you 😂😂😂

@caringcarer “frost is doing brilliantly in EU negotiations”

Now that is funny 😂

Im most amazed by how they ignore the complete economic fuck ups we've had since 2010.

And the mass poverty. Suppose they're 'chavs' though.

@user1471565182

They spent a lot of time undoing all the fuck ups labor made.

Do you defend us going to War under TB?

Are you also saying there was no mass poverty pre 2010?

I'm not rich by any stretch, quite the opposite. But I don't blame the government for that.

If someone would change their vote from Labour to Conservative on the basis they were bailed out financially in a national crisis, it suggests to me that they’re a natural Tory and would have gone that way eventually anyway. It would take more than eight weeks payment of 80% of my salary to buy my vote.

No. They are the best party for Britain. Labour would have nee worse.

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Most studies have found that the main reason for voting tory is linked to the protection of personal assets. Corbyn was evidently seen as a threat to these. Even if there are mass deaths it will not change most tory voters minds about who they should vote for. I bet it you did a secret poll and asked tory voters whether they would rather lose 80% of all their assets or for 100,000 people they don't know to die they would choose the latter.

@Alsohuman thankfully the Tories stepped in with furlough because her son couldn’t have survived under the UC regime.

Some interesting stats on child poverty here.

cpag.org.uk/recent-history-uk-child-poverty

thankfully the Tories stepped in with furlough because her son couldn’t have survived under the UC regime

My point entirely. His vote’s been sold pretty cheap. Given that he’s living at home, he would have survived and surely he’d have saved something?