To think it’s about time @MNHQ stepped up and did something about the teacher bashing.

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This evening has been AWFUL here on the AIBU board.

@MNHQ, at what point do you actually plan to intervene and do something about the sheer number of teacher bashing threads, and individual posts? Should we expect any kind of moderation?

Or, is this in fact, “all in the spirit of Mumsnet”? Because at the moment, you’re making it look a darn sight like you agree by proxy.

How would teachers feel if supermarket workers refused to serve them supermarket workers face one person at a time behind a shield, standing 2m away in a shop with a hugely reduced capacity.

I suppose it would be reasonable for teachers to have this shield as well though. That would be reassuring. The thing is, teachers cant refuse. It's not up to them, but they can express that they are concerned.

@maria860 that's awful. I really feel for her. I just think we should be in a much better place before we start increasing the number of people mixing. Im not convinced older pupils can socially distance...
I agree with a lot of your points.

Back at school children can queue up and wash hands with soap as soon as they get to school. They can wash hands again at beak and lunch time. There can also be hand sanitizer. They can use own pens and pencils and not share. Government said maximum of 15 in class and some parents will keep children home so probably classes of 11 or 12 or even less.

I don't understand why people think September will be some magical month of going back it takes one person to infect one person and the cycle begins again. The government knows this and they know it's here still in September they just aren't saying.
So September when it's winter this virus will come back that's what I think or still be around and spread more the kids will have lowered immune systems so will adults and I just foresee a disaster waiting to happen.

What if we never find a vaccine. Do teachers want to wfh forever? We have been told over half of all infected are in care homes.

Classrooms will be only half full so distancing. how do you know that @caringcarer?

@caringcarer from what I've seen from the parents I think an additional ten overall over the two year groups going back so hardly any difference.
People are scared so I don't see the classes being full.

They expect other key workers to serve the public yet they want to stay home.

I find this comment offensive. Firstly, it is assuming that all teachers are the same. Which we're not, if you'd bothered to read ANY of my previous posts. Secondly, I go into work for two days (I only work two days so 100% of my working week) EVERY week, including the Easter holidays, to look after key workers' children and those with EHCPs.

I am serving the public too.

So please stop with the generalisations and assumptions.

I'm in a parent WhatsApp group only two parent in my sons class are sending their kids back

Free speech. Some people will say things you don’t agree with. I think MNHQ only should get involved if it becomes a personal attack aimed at one individual or at a specific group of individuals, rather than a negative discussion about a sector of society in general. My mum is a midwife. They get a fair amount of bashing on here.

That said, some of the teachers here are making a rod for their own backs. You can’t have it both ways - banging on about how hard you work and how no one has any idea of how big your workload is but then post to the same thread more than 35 times during the rest of that day. It’s no wonder that people not only question your integrity regarding your workload claims but also don’t have much sympathy for you. If you’re going to spend all day arguing on a forum with strangers about how much marking you do each day and how many lesson plans you’ve done, don’t be surprised that people start to doubt how much work is actually being done. For people with such heavy workloads some of you sure do have a lot of time on your hands.

To be fair, it’s the weekend.

@caringcarer Government said maximum of 15 in class and some parents will keep children home so probably classes of 11 or 12 or even less.

so who do the teachers teach? the ones in school or the ones at home? It just sounds so hotch potch.

They expect other key workers to serve the public yet they want to stay home.
Teachers are key workers (as I've already pointed out) and are going into school on a rota basis to teach the children of key workers. What is your occupation? Are you working from home, furloughed or a key worker?

@BritWifeinUSA It's Sunday night

The idea is to form "bubbles" of children who mix. If one gets ill then all will self isolate. This self isolation is to protectelderly and vulnerable- so keep the child at home and away from anyone over 70 or medically vulnerable. Ill child is tested (due to....

So how does that wotk when child has a medically vulnerable sibling or parent?

@buckfastattiffanys Genius! It’s Sunday here too. I was referring to another thread on Wednesday this week when someone had the audacity to suggest that her child’s teacher wasn’t sending much work.

@BritWifeinUSA how the f are we supposed to know that you're referring to a thread from last Wednesday?

And how do you know that teacher is not part time? Or self isolating? Or in a vulnerable group? Or struggling with having to learn a whole new job with no training or resources?

I work part-time so am often here posting during my non-working days. Perhaps that accounts for some of the posters posting that you are talking about.

And you didn't clarify you were talking about a thread last week so it did rather look like you were commenting on posters posting on this thread today. Not sure the "Genius" comment was warranted; Tiffanys wasn't the only poster who thought you meant this thread today.

On average 5 out of every class send me work each week. Out of 27. Some students have never sent any work. Theyve ignored all communication, via three different forms, and just done nothing. One of those methods actually tells me the last time the parent checked the work set, too. Phone calls home to parents about the lack of work generated some great excuses, not having powerpoint on the child’s laptop being the most recent.

All I've Seen on facebook is parents bragging about giving up homeschooling, some in week one! Theyre are focusing on mental health instead. Apparently the best thing for that is Spending all day on fortnite. Or the Ones doing endless baking.

We seem to have a huge problem in that parents dont seem able to parent. So many threads, and again starting in the first week of lockdown, with a parent who cannot get their child do do anything they ask, then when theyre questioned about usual disciple Methods, there are none. But the op doesnt want suggestions. They just want the teacher to tell them off so they can stay their child’s mate.

At my children’s school, parents where complaining about having no work. Theres loads. Theres actually a timetable on the website for each year group. Two online programmes, work marked, comments from teacher. Topics and questions or tasks to do. Worksheets. Videos. Projects. Loads. Yet some parents were saying there was nothing. Because they hadnt looked at the website. They even then said well they werent told to look on the website. A letter went home with every child. Well they didnt see that as they didnt check their book bag. They just dont see it as their job.

The BBC bitesize work is great for high school students and parents of primary pupils. It is varied and interesting and easy to follow.

Theres no reason for any child To be doing nothing atm, other than poor parenting. Please dont let down your children.

You know I have always defended teachers on here and in real life.
However I think I won't bother in future as clearly I am such a poor parent and my dd2s teacher could well be bitching about me.
You see dd2 has done very little work despite my best efforts. I suspect she has autism/PDA and has been unable to attend school due to high levels anxiety etc etc and I think is just overwhelmed.
My dd1 has still been working hard even though her exams are cancelled.
So maybe everyone just needs to be kind. Something that is clearly lacking right now.

That is one child. Presumably toy are working with professionals to get a diagnosis.

I can assure you 22 students in every class i have do not have suspected SEN. That would be madness. Surely you don't actually think that is the case?

I think this thread highlights the fact that teachers and parents both feel criticised,defensive and conflicted by the current narrative.

Both want what's best and safest for their classes, their families and themselves - and quite rightly too.

Theres no reason for any child To be doing nothing atm, other than poor parenting.
I don’t think that’s fair actually - there are many reasons why parents are struggling at the moment. I have a child in my class with an EHCP who works best in a class of 30; parents are struggling to get her to work at home and I totally understand that. I have children whose parents are working FT at home in stressful jobs so work has to be done on the weekends. There are children with illness (inc mental illness) in their homes. There are lots of reasons. Not saying that all your students have a good excuse but I’ve never accused a parent of poor parenting and I’m really not sure it’s at all helpful to post that.
We are all incredibly stressed right now, parents and teachers. Away from MN I’m glad that at my school at least we’re all working together and trying to support each other.
And for the billionth time - TEACHERS ARE IN SCHOOL WORKING RIGHT NOW AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT - sorry, there’s a couple of posters here who have clearly not read the thread.

No but my point is that teachers feel criticised due to the sheer amount of bashing on here
Attacking parents is not the best way to. defend yourselves.
After all like the teachers who may be dealing with caring responsibility, illness, bereavement etc than parents could be gaving same issue.

Mumsnet is made up of journalists, government bots, foreign bots, trolls, activists and rabble-rousers all mixing in with ordinary posters.

Sometimes I'd swear Mumsnet is mostly made up of children.