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To think it’s about time @MNHQ stepped up and did something about the teacher bashing.

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SachaStark · 16/05/2020 00:08

This evening has been AWFUL here on the AIBU board.

@MNHQ, at what point do you actually plan to intervene and do something about the sheer number of teacher bashing threads, and individual posts? Should we expect any kind of moderation?

Or, is this in fact, “all in the spirit of Mumsnet”? Because at the moment, you’re making it look a darn sight like you agree by proxy.

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ButteryPuffin · 16/05/2020 00:40

Only specific celebrities who are unlikely even to be reading the site get the 'not in the spirit of Mumsnet' deletion treatment. When it's actual people right here reading it @MNHQ don't seem anywhere near as interested. This has been pointed out on a number of threads but we're still awaiting change or at least consistency.

What will happen now is someone will come on to say 'please report personal attacks, we look at them all' and then things will continue as usual.

IcanandIwill · 16/05/2020 00:41

Some schools have done a great job, some have been dire and others are somewhere in the middle . It seems a shame that as parents and teachers we cant discuss this. Just delete all threads then

Vodkacranberryplease · 16/05/2020 00:42

Sorry how is there low risk to teachers when they are in constant close contact with hundreds of germ ridden children? Schools are cesspits of diseases! Of course it would be better for us all if schools went back. People could work and life could go back to normal except the whole shitty, unfortunate point of a fucking pandemic is that it can't.

FrippEnos · 16/05/2020 00:44

IcanandIwill

You are able to discuss this. It is about framing your question

There is a huge difference between

'My DS's teachers have set little/no work'
and
'Why are teacher's not setting any work'

If you can't see the difference.

sevencontinents · 16/05/2020 00:45

@jojobar.
I am glad you are not a teacher. You clearly lack understanding of the issues surrounding this virus and how it spreads. I think you need to educate yourself before you question the education of teachers.

ProseccoBubbleFantasies · 16/05/2020 00:46

To he completely fair, MN has zapped a number of threads recently because of teacher bashing

ballsdeep · 16/05/2020 00:49

@Prosecco

After 200+ comments!!!

Peppafrig · 16/05/2020 00:54

Yes let's stop criticizing teachers . Then we best stop criticizing the government and every other profession. Eh. Is this teachers thinking they are some sort of special case again ? It's ok for others to go to work without PPE but not them.

ChandlerIsTheBestFriend · 16/05/2020 00:57

Oh if we’re having teachers, journalists and farmers on the protected professions lists can I add cleaners too? They’ve been taking a bashing this week.

ChandlerIsTheBestFriend · 16/05/2020 00:57

(I’m not serious BTW)

IcanandIwill · 16/05/2020 00:58

FrippEnoss and that's why we are made to feel like we cant start an honest and open conversation. I didn't say any of those things and I do understand the difference.

There are amazing teachers at one school who are actually teaching one of my kids digitally and they are clearly enjoying their job and making the most of awful circumstances. There is another school my other DC go to where it literally feels like we've dropped off the planet. Why is it not ok to discuss this? I feel like I cant criticise the bad but I can praise the good.

Is a big pile of photocopies all stapled together in one bunch going to motivate and educate a dyslexic DC who is already behind? The pack is not appropriate or differentiated. Yes I've raised it with the school and the response. Nothing. I've sourced stuff myself but who knows if its appropriate. So I want to moan on here. I'd do it about parking or DH. So why not this?

BlessYourCottonSocks · 16/05/2020 00:59

@Peppafrig. Mentally dismissing you...

FlowersDaffodilDaffodilFlowers

flumposie · 16/05/2020 01:01

I used to come on here for a break. Now I'm constantly made to feel shit. I'm doing my absolute best. I've just been looking at resources for next year when I realised it was after midnighton a Friday night. I'm just over it all now.

FrippEnos · 16/05/2020 01:01

Peppafrig
Yes let's stop criticizing teachers

The problem isn't about criticising your kids teachers or school.

It about attacking the entire profession and all schools.

Its about not listening to what is being posted and just posting bullshit, bile, misinformation and myth as truth when its clearly bollocks.

ProseccoBubbleFantasies · 16/05/2020 01:04

@SachaStark
Good point.

It's also stunning how many have an inflammatory OP and then OP vanishes from the thread....

FrippEnos · 16/05/2020 01:04

IcanandIwill
So I want to moan on here.

And as long as you are being specifically about your issues, your DS's teacher or school you should be ok. (can't promise)

But many have just posted 'why are teachers shit'

Maybe you could pull them up on threads?

Bflatmajorsharp · 16/05/2020 01:06

I think there needs to be some tighter moderation tbh, given that the stated aim of MN is to 'make life easier for parents'.

The endless comparing of how different schools are setting work etc is fine if you're interested in that sort of thing, but the lies and misinformation about teachers 'not being at work' and 'thinking they're special' aren't helpful, nor do they make life easier for anyone.

FrippEnos · 16/05/2020 01:10

Bflatmajorsharp

There needs to be tighter moderation if MN wants people to pay for the service.

Puffalicious · 16/05/2020 01:11

PP have said it all- I'm working my.arse off every, single day. If I didn't have my OH at home (furloughed) I don't know what the hell I'd do with 3 DC at home. My friend is getting up at 5am to work until the DC wake then working as soon as they go to bed as she's a lone parent- it's fucking grim.

This week I've individually replied with marked, detailed work to 72 pupils; I've been in 3 Teams meetings of 2 hours each; I've completed 2 sets of online training and gone in to work with vulnerable pupils. What more do people fucking want?!!

Bflatmajorsharp · 16/05/2020 01:12

FrippEnos regardless of whether people have signed up to be Premier or whatever it is, I would say.

YgritteSnow · 16/05/2020 01:16

But many have just posted 'why are teachers shit'

Where? Where have many posters just posted "why are teachers shit". I've never seen that.

They're not above criticism and when parents post about concerns around their child's education and are immediately accused of "teacher bashing" its irritating and raises hackles. A certain cohort of people claiming to be teachers on here seem to be revelling in playing the victim tbh as they charge onto perfectly reasonable threads to be horrendously rude and dismissive and compete to be the first to post the daffodil 🙄. Frankly I am sick to the back teeth of teachers whinging about being questioned. Some of you seem to really feel that you should never be questioned about anything and it comes across as massively arrogant and superior.

FWIW I don't think you have excessively long holidays - you deserve them. I wouldn't and couldn't teach and my DD's teachers are absolutely brilliant but I have known a couple of awful teachers in the past and it was terrifying that they had the influence and responsibility they did. I am allowed to question when things aren't going well and I am fed up of reading aggressive posts telling me I am teacher bashing if I do.

FrippEnos · 16/05/2020 01:16

Bflatmajorsharp

I agree. that it should be of a standardised level.

ARoseInHarlem · 16/05/2020 01:20

Some teachers are life-changing. Amazing individuals who have a real impact in ways that even parents can’t.

Some teachers are shit, and excel in whining and complaining.

The majority are somewhere in between.

No teacher on these boards should take it personally. Life is stressful right now. Children are stressful. Children, with life as it is right now, are doubly stressful for some. Teachers stand in loco parentis in normal times, so they’re the obvious place for parents to vent. It’s really not personal. If you insist on taking it personally, try being any other of the professionals that habitually get a “bashing”. Teachers are no more or less deserving of a bashing than those.

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/05/2020 01:26

There needs to be tighter moderation if MN wants people to pay for the service.

I'm paying and I don't want tighter legislation.

I work for a social landlord. I don't frequent tenant boards for my out-of-work entertainment because I imagine a lot of tenants slag off landlords and use it to vent. I know I'm a good landlord and try hard so I don't want to hear endless criticism.

This is a board called MUMSnet. There are going to be some parents. A lot of whom will have had a bad experience with teachers. Because that's just the nature of work. I find it odd why a lot of teachers on here can't understand that.

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