To think it’s about time @MNHQ stepped up and did something about the teacher bashing.

[SachaStark]

This evening has been AWFUL here on the AIBU board.

@MNHQ, at what point do you actually plan to intervene and do something about the sheer number of teacher bashing threads, and individual posts? Should we expect any kind of moderation?

Or, is this in fact, “all in the spirit of Mumsnet”? Because at the moment, you’re making it look a darn sight like you agree by proxy.

I don't think it is made up of tht at all. Plenty of us are just normal people with jobs - a few will have jobs in journalism but the range of careers is quite broad here. We all have our own political views. I vote Conservative. I voted Remain. I didn't support closing of schools or lock down. No poster will be identical.

Do you really vote Tory, Xenia, like the next self-centred, compassionless, out of touch arsehole? Will wonders never cease?

BritWifeinUSA

banging on about how hard you work and how no one has any idea of how big your workload is

Here is yet another teacher trope.

@Nicknacky

Would you call an entire group of people workshy, lazy. or generalise about something not being in their work description?

Because that would be incredibly rude as well.

There isn't thread after thread from any other profession incandescent with rage at the thought that anyone should dare criticize them. Says it all.

There isn't thread after thread from any other profession incandescent with rage at the thought that anyone should dare criticize them. Says it all
Another variation on the 'teachers think they are Gods' line that comes up here.

Just for clarity:

1. Nobody thinks schools or teachers are beyond criticism
2. On a regular basis when posters have issues with their school, teachers on here help and encourage people to contact the most appropriate people at their school to resolve the issue.
3. Having an issue with some of the stupid advice on here (eg. Call ofsted/turn up and demand a meeting with the head) or stupid generalisations about the profession (eg. Teachers are lazy, work shy, aren't doing their jobs, just want the holidays) does not mean teachers think they are immune from criticism. It means they've had enough of shitty posts from people who are being goady and deliberately inflammatory in a way that doesn't help anyone.

Viviennemary

Another post that is playing fast and loose with the facts.

FrippEnos Why on earth would I generalise about an entire workforce? I don’t understand your point apart from you appearing to agree teachers shouldn’t be saying kids are “germ ridden”?

If you are referring to the point about calls home, then there is at least one teacher on here who clearly things that’s too much to be expected of her.

Nicknacky

And yet you did generalise about all MN teachers.

I'm not surprised that the Mumsnet teachers find that outside their job descriptions.

Apologies. I missed out the word “some”. Does that make it easier for you now?

Nicknacky

It makes all the difference, especially as this is what the thread is based around.

Show me the threads from the other professions.

Viviennemary

Show me the "thread after thread" started by teachers "incandescent with rage at the thought that anyone should dare criticize them".

This one for a start.

I think that "incandescent with rage" seems to have a different meaning to you

but even if I compromise and agree, this is hardly "thread after thread".

FrippEnos

Remind me of the whole point of the daffodil offensive?

Most threads about schools closing/opening ends up with teachers being criticised and teachers posting who don't like being criticised. That's the whole reason for the flowers isn't it?

Can we not pretend that all other workers out in public have adequate protection or some screen to sit behind? because it's a load of shit.

Someone said shop workers coming into contact with only one person at a time and they are behind a screen...I'd have to ask have you actually been in a shop recently?

There were loads of staff on the floor, not behind any form of screen or wearing any PPE, stacking shelves, dealing with the queues in, directing customers to certain checkouts, literally passing 100s of people a day.

I'm not saying that's okay and so teachers should be subjected to the same but please let's not kid ourselves that all the other workers out there serving the public are protected, because they aren't.

Didn't a train worker literally die last week after being coughed on whilst doing their job? She wasn't sat behind a screen like some on here would argue.

I can only recall one thread in ten years here that was set up to criticise another profession. And it was set up as a joke. People have a pop at actuaries, accountants, planning office, etc.

There isnt thread after thread started criticising other professions.

@Viviennemary show me the threads that have.

There isnt thread after thread started criticising other professions

Well yes... Because it's a parenting forum and education of one's children forms quite a large part of parenting.

There absolutely have been other threads about other professions, lawyers, police officers, midwives, social workers to name a few I've seen probably in the last 6-8 months on here. Obviously they are less common because 9/10 posters won't have regular experiences with those professionals unlike their child's teacher/school.

I'm really shocked that it's so surprising to some that teaching would be the profession most discussed on a forum called mumsnet...

Can we not pretend that all other workers out in public have adequate protection or some screen to sit behind?

Where have people said every single other worker is protected?

If some people are not adequately protected, does that mean we shouldnt even try to protect others?

Why are people in mumsnet insistent that they will not wear a mask to protect others?

Are people saying poor Retail staff have no protection actually wearing a mask in the shops? Or are you also part of the problem of making retail staff so unsafe?

Should our government not be looking at countries who are successfulLy dealing with corona virus spread and doing the same / similar, rather than saying fuck it only the already unhealthy die, so im fine? Let’s carry on letting those people died in their hundreds every day and not change our behaviour at all.

some groups not being protected should not be an excuse to not try to protect others. It should be a sign that our government is appalling, and we should all be horrified at their attitude and hold them to account.

Show me "thread after thread" about any other profession that has been attacked and goaded and perpetually criticised in the same way teaching has.
Why not start up on dentists, for instance? They're not at work at the moment (except in extreme cases as teachers are, caring for KW children), lots of us could do with appointments at the moment? Bloody hell, they're not even sending out leaflets or worksheets reminding us all how to clean our teeth properly! Lazy fucking bastards. They should have their pay docked.

And what about those poor parcel delivery van people. They come in for a lot of stick on MN for knocking too loudly. And neighbours who don't collect their parcels quickly enough and folk whose DCs are out trampolining at 5 am yelling.

Obviously they are less common because 9/10 posters won't have regular experiences with those professionals unlike their child's teacher/school.
Oh yes. Everyone went to school themselves, so knows everything about it. I went to the doctor's once. Doesn't give me the right to tell the entire profession how to carry out major surgery.

Ron
You're missing the point, just like several others.

Nobody has an issue with education being discussed. Nobody has an issue with people seeking advice on situations regarding their child's school. On countless threads teachers on here advise posters to contact school with worries and concerns.

Many of the teachers on here are simply getting fed up with goady generalisations accusing the profession of not wanting to work, being off doing nothing, are lazy, only want the holidays, starting thread after thread saying "but really what are they doing?". When teachers challenge this then the goady posters say "see look they think they can't be criticised", or when people explain what they are doing say "see look they think they work harder than anyone else".