to feel relieved because London could be virus free by the end of the month ??

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It should make us hopeful !! Lockdown will definitely be eased and life could go back a bit to normal !

A person close to me runs a testing centre and they are seeing the % of positives rise not fall.....so not sure London is out of the woods yet

You’re the type to say “didn’t you mean too rather than to” whilst totally missing the point as well aren’t you?

Poor old Janet, she was supposed to add a little light heartedness but it’s obviously fallen flat.

Sorry to offend. The reason I corrected you wasn’t for kicks - how dull - but because this virus is all too often called a kind of flu in attempts to minimise it, make it look workaday and to characterise the response as OTT. I’m not saying that was your intent, but unlike spelling, dispelling the misinformation that’s out there and not feeding it further is really important.

But apologies again - I clearly hit a nerve, and upset wasn’t my intent.

A person close to me runs a testing centre and they are seeing the % of positives rise not fall.....so not sure London is out of the woods yet

Well that isn’t the information being presented by the chief medical officers.

The official numbers of new infections in London, which I check daily, were constantly in their 80s in the past few days, but yesterday stood at 166.

I think you need to be careful interpreting daily figures. It might just be that more results came back that day than the others or that there had been a delay for some reason for the days in the 80s. After all it is clear that test results are often taking a ridiculous amount of time to come back.

The official numbers of new infections in London, which I check daily, were constantly in their 80s in the past few days, but yesterday stood at 166

I assume that's the number of positive tests rather than the number of newly infected people. That's too imprecise a number to really draw any meaningful conclusions imo, far too many variables.

Here is my link: coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yes, I am not looking here at how many people truly have it, and know the number would be much higher. I check the official number and hope from the increase or decrease I can deduct some idea of how the true number might develop.

If these figures are accurate then it's very good news for London, NOT because it means we can all just shout hurrah and go back to normal, but because it means we are in a good position to put in place a properly integrated test, isolate, trace and quarantine strategy.
Yes. This is what Boris means by 'Stay Alert' and Macron's 'Restez Prudents'' People need to be careful. We're at a different stage in Scotland hence 'Stay At Home'

This is what Boris means by 'Stay Alert'

Is it? Where's the properly integrated strategy then?

Testing - we're generally doing more tests but they're not being used strategically. We should be testing everyone with symptoms, not just certain groups.

Isolation - we are still being told to stay at home with the whole rest of our household and for just 7 days. This is just long enough to give us a really good chance of infecting everyone we live with before going back out while still infectious.

Contact tracing - this seems very slow to get off the ground and there doesn't seem to be a joined up strategy. Also if we are not testing everyone with symptoms we are also not tracing their contacts.

Quarantine - this is where it all really falls apart. Family members stay at home with the infected person, just to make sure they really catch it. There's a strange chart to follow to find out when you are allowed out depending on how fast the rest of you catch it. I haven't seen anything about contacts outside the household. Are workplaces prepared for contacts taking 2 weeks off? And nothing yet in place at airports or ports.

And if that's what Boris means by 'stay alert' then why is he telling us? We can't build this system, it's a job for government.

The increase in cases since yesterday just for the 12 inner London boroughs was 78, so bearing in mind this is just the known cases, the figure is going to be much higher, which means that the 24 cases for the whole of London was simply a fantasy figure plucked out of thin air.

I doubt it - the supermarkets seem to have stopped enforcing social distancing - large family groups allowed to wander round Sainsburys - when a week ago they were still enforcing the one person per household rule, long non-distanced ques down the aisles in Iceland with people stopping next to each other to natter to their friends. Groups of people hanging out together on street corners and in the parks - I suspect it will bounce up again soon.

Don’t believe what you read. Virtually nothing at all can be believed or taken as it seems in the media at the moment. Think about why they are printing this at this time?

Time2change2 you should never believe the media spin on it. Doesn’t mean you can’t look at the data and make you own decisions based on that and London is clearly well over the peak but that doesn’t mean loosening of lockdown is not going to cause a rise

And if that's what Boris means by 'stay alert' then why is he telling us? We can't build this system, it's a job for government. The items you've listed are government jobs but our job is to maintain social distancing/hand washing etc. I'm not a government spokesman

I would love for it to be true, but I also read today that the R rate has crept up to 0.7-1.0 since lockdown was eased slightly, that's the only reason I voted YABU, not because I think you're talking bollox

YANBU that's fantastic news if true.

(Which it clearly isn't )

Is Mumsnet usually damning and unkind to others? Robust informed debate is one thing ...

The r rate may he declining in London but that picture isn’t the same across the country. The r rate in the North East is 0.83.

Is Mumsnet usually damning and unkind to others? Robust informed debate is one thing ...
It’s in the rules ..

I suspect the damning, at least in this thread, is directed towards the government for all the lies and outstandingly incompetent negligent (mis)handling of the pandemic.