to feel relieved because London could be virus free by the end of the month ??

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It should make us hopeful !! Lockdown will definitely be eased and life could go back a bit to normal !

Oh FGS shut up with the "some want the virus to stay forever" bollocks. It just makes you sound a brainless ninny.

Think of a monster hanging around a street, it grabs everyone it sees ... so everyone runs home and locks the doors, the monster is still there...waiting in the shadows.... the minute people start coming back outside it pounces again

Oh FFS. We’re not children. We can think of it in terms of a virus, not a fucking ‘monster’.

It just makes you sound a brainless ninny

Yeah and calling actual real scientific reports bullshit and crying about how it absolutely cannot be tight (even though you're not a scientist and they are) makes you look reet clever doesn't it?

YANBU to be relieved when that happens. But YABU (U for unrealistic more than unreasonable) to expect this to happen by the end of this month.

trustthegenegenie I haven't said the report is bullshit, just that the media have a massive history of extremely distorted reporting of scientific research so I am sceptical of today's press reports. Have you read the actual paper and fact checked the reports?

What is it about some people that they have to turn every positive into a negative:

London cases falling......yes but mark my words they'll soon go up again so there.
Elderly people surviving....yes but think of the thousands that haven't.
People reporting that they've had the virus and it wasn't that bad....well you couldn't have had it because when my next door neighbour's best friend's cat sitter's auntie had it she couldn't do anything for weeks.

Is it really beyond some peoples ability to be cautiously optimistic...be more like Piglet and less like Eeyore and you might find life a bit better.

I looked at link posted up thread because shock horror I don't actually read the newspapers. Still don't think it's bullshit.

Have you?

I have (linked earlier) and it does show that London would decrease down
It doesn’t say eradicate because lockdown is being released

It shows though the North West and East is still v high

Wait for the post VE-day spike to hit ...

They don't know that, and they won't know that unless they test every single person.
Asymptomatic carriers exist
People at home self isolating and not being tested exist.
Ports and airports exist and are not and can't stay closed forever.

If we look at this article from CityAM (using the same figures as the rest) it talks about the 24 daily cases in London and also throws out a daily cases figure for Yorkshire and the North East of 4320 cases a day, which is quite mad, because the entire UK's daily cases figure for Covid-19 has not been at over 4000 since 8th May, and the total amount of Covid-19 cases for the North East (not the daily figure) is 5294.
These reports are using "modelling data" not statistics produced by the ONS.
Could it possibly be the case, that by producing these figures they are simply trying to get London workers back at their desks, irrespective of the damage it will cause when the inevitable second wave arrives?

www.cityam.com/london-now-counts-just-24-new-coronavirus-cases-per-day/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_Kingdom

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

trustthegenegenie if you are referring to the Cambridge link yes I have. I can't see the claimed conclusion. I did see graphs that could be interpreted that way but where the width of the line versus the graphs could easily represent a 1000 cases. Creating graphs to tell a story is my day job.

Ok so why don't you go volunteer with them if you're so much better at their jobs than they are?

Really? And with people back on public transport and at work you think this downward trend can continue? Stop reading the Mail.

Anyone who ran off to a second home should be made to stay there until a vaccine is found. That includes the Gordon Ramsey’s of this world and the Royal Family. We don’t want returnees kicking off a second wave.

It's great London has a relatively low level of cases, but I don't think we're going 'back to normal' any time this year

Isn't this the effect of the lockdown though? So what happens next depends on how we come out of lockdown - trying to keep people off public transport (so encouraging people to continue working from home), restricting who can use public transport at peak times, getting people to wear masks, use hand gel etc and continue distancing in queues etc as much as possible. It is encouraging to read those headlines and I think people need encouragement so they can see the lockdown is working, but I don't think any of us can expect that everything will go back to normal in a month.

What’s reassuring is that London has achieved much lower R with a meaningful but not draconian lockdown. I live in a very high density area of London, so everyone non-shielded going out for a walk/run and maybe a trip to the supermarket every day or two means the streets and shops are pretty full. Everyone’s been doing their best but the sort of little breaches which would make many MNers have conniptions are commonplace - joggers coming past you at 1.5 metres distance, people brushing past each other momentarily in narrow shop doorways, people swapping board games with their neighbours, sunbathers, park yoga devotees, lads having a kick about.

It appears that my gut instinct that this stuff probably wouldn’t do any harm might have been correct.

@countrygirl99 because I don’t think they have I think that is the hyperbolic media spin. The graphs if you click on do give you the data already received and added in and model from there. Do you not trust the data from all the report

As always the media creates a headline b

Are you mad .

If anything the numbers will increase in 4 weeks after this week's more relaxed rules take effect.

Surely London will be last to be virus free. It's a city with a huge population. People live in small flats and travel on the tube and train because driving in London is a nightmare. It's the city that never sleeps!

Surely villages and small towns will be able to rid of it quicker.

Are you mad hmm. fgs, read the thread , op didn’t pull this out of her arse or make it up,it was in the news

@XxrosesxX don’t be daft .. London has always been ahead of the curve

OP how dare you report on any good news and have any optimism whatever. Anything other than "we're all doomed and life will never be the same again" is just courting ridicule...

Bit of a coincidence that the economy is free fall, people are reluctant to go back to work/put their kids in school and all of a sudden London is going to be free of it in June. How ridiculous, this government takes us all for fools, that and the newspapers.