to feel relieved because London could be virus free by the end of the month ??

[Italianmoma1983]

It should make us hopeful !! Lockdown will definitely be eased and life could go back a bit to normal !

😁😁

Sadly the government's doing it's best to bring it back up with a vengeance. As if suffering more deaths than during the Blitz isn't enough for them.
95,000+ arrived at the airports during lockdown so far. Unlike most other countries around the world we have no border restrictions at all. No checks, no quarantine, all unessential flights allowed.

They've also forced people back onto crowded tube trains. Which will be worse soon since the congestion charge suspension is going to end.

The government seems to have it in for Londoners. Possibly indirect racism?

As anyone else who looks at FlightRadar24 will know, aircraft from all over the world are landing at Heathrow airport every few minutes. The public transport links from there go straight into central London on the tube.

Unless they completely ban all passenger air traffic from entering the UK, then I suspect it might take a while before London is virus-free.
This.

New media reports that R dangerously close to 1...just saw it in the guardian

The Guardian also mentioned that the data is 2-3 weeks old and skewed by being based on hospitals and care homes

SAGE reports that R is higher than 1 now.

Can you link to where, @YouTheCat? Harries quoted SAGE as putting in at 0.7 - 1.0. She also discussed how it was calculated.

SAGE reports that R is higher than 1 now

It’s changed since 5pm this afternoon?

Yes due to care home transmission (which is a disgrace and a tragedy) not community transmission

Delusional!!!

R is 0.7 - 1.0 as determined by SAGE. Not higher than 1.

I read it a short while ago and now I can't find it so am hoping it was wrong and has been taken down.

And frankly, as it was all over every news outlet and it’s normal to consider (especially in the midst of a global pandemic) most people may have an eye on the news each day, starting a conversation about a striking headline element is really normal

If people have any care about their mental health this is exactly not what they are doing. Every good bit of advice I've read about how to cope with this situation and stay in control of anxiety it is to avoid "having an eye on the news every day and coming onto social media to discuss a striking headline". This is what makes people's anxiety levels spiral out of control.

It's a big reason why my presence on this forum is about 80% down on what it used to be and my complete absence on Twitter and Facebook. It saps my mental energy all the speculation and conflicting "news".

But yet , here you are ..

How are these reports defining London though?

Zone 1? Everything inside the M25? There’s a huge difference between the two.

To be honest I'm not surprised. The messages have been so mixed and I believe that people have stopped caring. Over the last 3 days there have been plenty of family visits to various houses on our street. Not just going in the garden but in the house for the full day. Yesterday on my daily walk in the park I saw a group of about 10 lads playing football in the park and there were a group of 15 or so teens sat in a circle chatting and not 1 metre apart let alone 2 metres.

I believe people have just felt that they need to get on with their lives and thought sod it.

By hospital trust @EmpressLangClegInChair so if NHS England definition

Thanks, Quartz2208.

Good. That does include my bit in Zone 4 then.

No way will London be free for a very long time and it will keep resurfacing anyway for many years

I don’t know how you got that idea. Infection rates have increased and will no doubt do so again about two weeks after the slight ease on lockdown this week. I think it’s very possible that we will have a tightening of lockdown then.

To start a wildfire, it only takes one careless person to toss a lit cig.

With COVID-19, it only takes one ill person who shows no symptoms to infect dozens.

We shouldn’t have even had ‘lockdown’ we should have developed herd immunity to another strain of a flu. It will be around for a long time now and they’re praying on the mugs who want the ‘vaccine’ 🤑🤑🤑🤑

We’ve yet to see the impact of VE Day, let alone the lift in restrictions. There is absolutely no way that London will be virus free anytime soon.

@Quartz2208

At a care home in California, one of the very worst breakouts was 104 patients and 60 staff members had tested positive as of 28 April. 28 had died. You know it’s worse by now, over two weeks later.
In fact, it was so bad, they removed all the remaining staff and installed medical professionals from the state & federal governments.
Just horrible management. And the company that owns them owns several others & their health & safety violations go back years. Yet they were allowed to continue to operate. Beyond shameful.

I don’t know how you got that idea. Infection rates have increased and will no doubt do so again about two weeks after the slight ease on lockdown this week. I think it’s very possible that we will have a tightening of lockdown then.

The rates announced yesterday were two weeks old. The government briefing this afternoon was the most positive I’ve seen. Jenny Harries said community transmission is low and the sources of transmission are care homes and health care settings. We need to stay positive and calm, the risk of infecting people outside is low. Unless your favoured outside exercise is sex on the beach.

I think maybe a bit of fantasy thinking on that one. I read in paper one person in China infected over 600 people she wasn't well still went out .I can see that happening someone feeling off but still needs to go to work .travels by public transport that's the start of passing it on .

They must reckon that everyone who lives there will have had it by then ! This is just more speculation. The way the Tube is packed with hardly anyone wearing masks, I'm surprised that cases are not going up.