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Is he Anal or am I in the wrong

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IsHeAnal · 11/05/2020 21:06

Can someone just please tell me if I’m be unreasonable when I tell my partner that he is playing mind games with my girls. This is written in a rush after yet another incident so I’m a bit peed off right now. It’s long and sorry for all mistakes and grammar.

We’ve been together since end 2016. Moved in together end 2018. He moved to my area and we moved into a new place.
He is brilliant with the girls. He never had any children himself. I don’t drive so all after school activities etc that’s not within walking distance he takes and drops them. He treat them. Surprised them this Xmas with one of their favourite music artists (might be cancelled) but just to give you an idea that he does a lot for them.

Now my biggest biggest issue is what I personally call “anal” behaviour. The girls are 12 and 9. From all my friends near and friends who I know who doesn’t live near us my girls go to bed early. Always has either screen time on their iPads or on DD1s phone. If behaviour isn’t good I can just say to them “put your phone downstairs until you behave better etc”. They might be annoyed but they don’t question my choices. My 9 year old is a little like me and will ask me if I’m the boss of her etc or why am I on my phone before reluctantly putting hers down.

I’m now going to list what he does that annoy the hell out of me.

  1. He will hide 9 year olds iPad to test if she will come and hug me in the morning because she “loves” me or because she wants the iPad.
  2. He used to go into DD1s room to hide her laptop as DD1 tend to give her laptop for DD2 to play minecraft. So when he is at work and DD1 needs to do work on laptop we can’t find it. I lost my shit about that so that is the only thing that stopped. And similar he hides DD1s iPad for same reason. But still always come and moan at me that she’s on it when he walks past there bedroom.
  3. He will come and tell me every single time if DD2 is on her iPad or on her sisters gadgets. Every single time. I’ve got screen time on from 9am to 6pm and sometimes extend it depending on if she’s been doing other stuff all day and not been on her iPad. But even though it’s available to use all day she’s limited to 2hrs app time. So if she’s been 2hrs non stop on there she cannot continue on it unless she asks me.
  4. Brushing of teeth: every single night after I’ve kissed them whether they’ve come downstairs or I’ve gone up and told them get ready for bed i.e. pjs on and teeth. He will shout up brush your teeth. He will then pretend to go to the toilet to go and feel if their toothbrushes are wet. And go on and on if one of the girls happened to not have done it.
  5. He now also during lockdown go in every morning and put their toothbrushes in a particular position to see if they’ve moved it. If it hasn’t moved it proofs that they haven’t yet again brush their teeth. And use it against them for something. Every bloody time. Most of the time the girls are currently especially during lockdown in their onesies. So yes tend to forget stuff like brushing their teeth as they tend to have breakfast after JoeWicks and then start school work at 10.
  6. He is constantly onto DD1 about showering. It’s lockdown. Most of the time she finds excuses right now. My thinking is she will struggle and she’ll stink if she doesn’t shower so she’s old enough to know better. He is constantly making note of when she had a shower. So I flipped last week and said what if she starts her period (she hasn’t yet) will you also be on and aware of it all the time. I would have hated that if I was her age.
  7. DD2 is working downstairs as she’s only 9 and DD1 in her own room. Every now and then he will come downstairs and if DD2 is doing anything remotely that doesn’t look school work related he will make comments and reference to it or “questioning” if we are actually doing school work.
  8. Bed time: for years my girls slept 7pm to 7am. Until I started to feel sorry for them as I know their friends sleep later. 2 years ago that was extended to 8pm. Now I personally don’t mind if it’s 8:30 to 9 during term time for DD2 and 9-10 for DD1. Its lockdown so I honestly would not have been all that bothered. But whether it’s normal school days or weekends or holidays he is constantly moaning about bed time. Saying he needs his alone time and chill out time. He goes to bed at 9:15. So most evenings I’m there on my own. I have always been the type of parent who had a 7-7 bedtime routine but flexible with my girls as youngsters so if we were heading to a playgroup or meeting a friend and they fell asleep on their way I’d still go as they’ll sleep in pushchair or they’d fall asleep on their way home but I could always lift them out of pushchair and put them asleep into their cot with no make ups. Their dad was a massive asshole but my girls were very good babies/children.
  9. He hates it when the girls come in for cuddles in the morning as he doesn’t believe kids belong in their parents bedroom let alone if he isn’t there. But will quite happily like a photo of my friend who has 3 kids and her partner who has 2 kids and her having all 5 on her bed.
Please tell me that I have every reason to lose my shit. My biggest worry is my eldest is almost a teenager and she’s going to have friends in and out of our house or want to stay up even later. The girls love him and id hate for them to be older and resent him when he does such a lot for them. But they’d end up resenting him as he behaves like a snitch. Every single time when they are doing stuff that’s very small he runs to me. Every every time. So AIBU to tell him to just bloody stop it and enjoy this age and stage the girls are at as they really are not difficult kids. Please help!
OP posts:
JediJim · 11/05/2020 23:30

Isheanal, what are you going to do? You’ve come on here asking advice and then go on about what a good dad he is? Like you’re convincing yourself?
What do you want mumsnettters to say exactly?

HowdyBubble · 11/05/2020 23:30

It's a weird one - some of the things he's "anal" about just makes him sound like an overly caring strict parent figure - like putting in effort into noticing if they've brushed their teeth, showered, etc. as if he's doing it for their benefit = i.e. OK but when paired with some of the more mean things (like not liking them awake late as it disturbs his alone time and not liking them in his bed) shows maybe he gets some sort of satisfaction out of making your daughters' lives controlled and restricted. The "liking of the photo of your friend's children in bed" would have pissed me off a lot after he's complained about it with regards to your daughters.

I think you need to speak to him - mention the things you've told us and how it's coming across. He's not their parent and if he still refuses to budge on these issues, you'll know he's being a controlling bully.

TheMistressQuickly · 11/05/2020 23:33

He is controlling and on some kind of power trip. I would t condone this in my house, sorry x

KitchenConfidential · 11/05/2020 23:34

The simple fact of the matter is that even if there isn’t anything more sinister going on, you are painfully obviously not on the same parenting page. That is not going to go away and will only become more painful as you navigate life with your daughters as they grow up. Imagine two teenage girls and trying to manage his controlling behaviours with them. Shudder.

Thescrewinthetuna · 11/05/2020 23:34

He’s grooming you and your children. Protect them from him.

1Morewineplease · 11/05/2020 23:35

Ok OP.
You’ve just painted your partner to be an excellent example of parenting and you’ve explained most of your original concerns away.

What exactly is your AIBU? Is it just the testing of the toothbrushes? Is he just a bit narked at your own daughters entering your bedroom?
What are your real concerns that have promoted you to post?

MrsPotatoHeadsSheeWee · 11/05/2020 23:35

Someone upthread mentioned that he should get a pet if he has a need to control and train something so badly.

My gut reaction screamed NO, DO NOT INFLICT THIS ON A DEFENCELESS ANIMAL as I imagine him hurting an animal.

There's my answer, do not inflict this on your defenceless daughters in their own home. Please.

LovingLola · 11/05/2020 23:38

right now my mind needs to be with my 3 x 3hr exams starting tomorrow.

Your mind needs to be with your daughters.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/05/2020 23:40

I see you have your hands full with exams. Please don’t just explain away his behaviour. You sound confused and looking for evidence based reasoning. Why don’t you speak about this to your therapist or another over a zoom call and see what they think? You even have this thread to email to them.

growinggreyer · 11/05/2020 23:41

Why does he go into their bedroom at all? He needs to stop that. Get the girls to keep their toothbrushes in their room. It's gross to have toothbrushes in the same room as the toilet anyway. Stop him being able to check up on them. And hide his phone to see if he really loves you.

iften · 11/05/2020 23:41

I had a lovely stepdad. He adored my mum and treated us kids as nice extras that came with her. Perfect.

If he'd behaved like your partner OP, he would have been gone without a doubt.

NaviSprite · 11/05/2020 23:42

I can’t post specifics about why this man gives me the chills too OP because they relate to family members and it’s not my story to tell.

I will say this, watch out for any escalation of his behaviour in any of the areas you have listed and any other ways he might be placing physical/emotional distance between you and your DD’s

Also when your head is clear, really think about how you would have felt as a young child subjected to his obsessive ‘reporting’, having items you considered lifelines hidden as a test, constant remarks on your personal hygiene during the pre-pubescent years and beyond, it doesn’t sound right - I would be considering his motives and challenging why he feels it is okay to behave this way.

If he did this to a colleague - what would happen? If he did this to you as the adult you are now - what would happen? Why should your DD’s be subjected to it?

Wearywithteens · 11/05/2020 23:42

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MrsHound · 11/05/2020 23:45

right now my mind needs to be with my 3 x 3hr exams starting tomorrow.
Your mind needs to be with your daughters.
I hope this thread is a wind up and those 2 girls are not relying on you to keep them safe

B1rdbra1n · 11/05/2020 23:48

He's like a fox pacing around a hen house, he can't tear himself away, sniffing around, monitoring them, learning everything he can about them, gathering information, waiting for an opportunity

IsHeAnal · 11/05/2020 23:48

Wow Lola so you think I’m not thinking of my kids. My kids has and always will come first. Why I posted was the reasons I mentioned above and I’ve also responded that I have read every single response and wish I can pick up the phone to a friend right now but can’t at this time of the night. My girls know that I will literally hurt whoever hurts my children. School knows that, friends know that, ex in-laws knows that because each and everyone has dealt with me when they’ve treated my kids mean, bullied, etc. More importantly he bloody should know that as the only time we ever argue is due to the stuff I mentioned in my original post. So call me what you like. My kids come first. I am alone in this country (without family but bloody amazing friends) and I still wouldn’t care less when I make decisions. So a lot of you have mentioned stuff that I didn’t even think about at first. I’m a regular mumsnetter so always understand the masses more importantly I understand this thread and guess what I know where to go for help. I can stand on my own two feet and wouldn’t need to come on here to get for example financial help. I read way too much so that when my marriage ended years before I knew exactly what to do without starting a post myself. In fact each one of you would have enjoyed that thread as it would have sounded unbelievable but it wasn’t it was my and my young daughters’ lives. Hence why I recommend lots of people to mumsnet as I find it very valuable.
Thank you.

OP posts:
Mother87 · 11/05/2020 23:49

I totally ignored behaviour like this from my DH who was step-dad to my 2 DC's - not a 'bad' man or controlling per se, but he was very sarcastic and belligerent with them/bullying/undermining their confidence. I made excuses for him because he did/DOES care about them and has shown this in many ways and when he was 'nice' he was very very noce and thoughtful. But the good never ever ever made up for the bad and it blighted their lives for many years and my now adult DC's loathe him/can't & couldn't wait to get away and haven't forgiven me for staying with him and I have many many regrets.

Lockdownsnackathon · 11/05/2020 23:49

That is not normal behaviour.

I always find it strange when people say "but the kids love him"

They don't understand this weird behaviour is weird. He is a significant person in their life and kids often show loyalty and love, even to extremely abusive parents. Just because they love him doesn't mean they should be exposed to this downright strange and controlling behaviours. Setting them up to have poor boundaries as adults at a minimum.

B1rdbra1n · 11/05/2020 23:50

he isn't a talker
Perhaps he knows better than to tell you what's really on his mind?

Mammyloveswine · 11/05/2020 23:51

He sounds controlling.., my own dad is the same and even now "checks" my recycling bin etc... it makes me so anxious! Like my whole life is a test!

Serin · 11/05/2020 23:51

Urgh, he has no right to be in your daughter's room. He has no right to comment on her personal hygiene either.
I have no words about the checking of the toothbrushes? Other than he sounds creepy as hell.

LuminousAmber · 11/05/2020 23:52

This thread is mental.

So many of the things in the op are completely normal parenting concerns.

Making sure dc brush their teeth and shower regularly.
Expecting dc to be quiet after bedtime, not whispering and in each other’s beds.
Wanting a regular bedtime routing for dc so you can have some adult only time in the evening.
Being concerned about screen time and keeping a younger dc off older dcs devices by moving them.
Telling the kids to crack on with school work if they’re not doing what they should.
Not wanting kids in your bed first thing - also completely normal and something lots of parents have strict rules about.

It’s just so...standard. Yet you throw in the word STEPdad and girls and he’s a creepy, abusive, bullying pervert and being compared to Fred West Hmm

IMO if the op doesn’t want him parenting her kids she needs to step up to the plate and do it herself because she’s being completely lax over important things.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/05/2020 23:52

Ok so you know how to take care of yourself and get yourself out of precarious positions. Great. Talking about ripping his balls off is just that, talk. Your last post is really evasive.

pooopypants · 11/05/2020 23:54

His interest in your girls is abnormal.

Please take steps to protect them OP, yourself too.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/05/2020 23:56

Luminous
You have explained away the other stuff, which is wierd snd controlling. It has nothing to do with being a stepfather. Most 12 year olds don’t go to bed before 9, perhaps later. He’s in bed at 9.15. If he wants adult time, he needs to adjust his schedule, not the other way around. You can’t just hang kids on the back of the door.