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Is he Anal or am I in the wrong

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IsHeAnal · 11/05/2020 21:06

Can someone just please tell me if I’m be unreasonable when I tell my partner that he is playing mind games with my girls. This is written in a rush after yet another incident so I’m a bit peed off right now. It’s long and sorry for all mistakes and grammar.

We’ve been together since end 2016. Moved in together end 2018. He moved to my area and we moved into a new place.
He is brilliant with the girls. He never had any children himself. I don’t drive so all after school activities etc that’s not within walking distance he takes and drops them. He treat them. Surprised them this Xmas with one of their favourite music artists (might be cancelled) but just to give you an idea that he does a lot for them.

Now my biggest biggest issue is what I personally call “anal” behaviour. The girls are 12 and 9. From all my friends near and friends who I know who doesn’t live near us my girls go to bed early. Always has either screen time on their iPads or on DD1s phone. If behaviour isn’t good I can just say to them “put your phone downstairs until you behave better etc”. They might be annoyed but they don’t question my choices. My 9 year old is a little like me and will ask me if I’m the boss of her etc or why am I on my phone before reluctantly putting hers down.

I’m now going to list what he does that annoy the hell out of me.

  1. He will hide 9 year olds iPad to test if she will come and hug me in the morning because she “loves” me or because she wants the iPad.
  2. He used to go into DD1s room to hide her laptop as DD1 tend to give her laptop for DD2 to play minecraft. So when he is at work and DD1 needs to do work on laptop we can’t find it. I lost my shit about that so that is the only thing that stopped. And similar he hides DD1s iPad for same reason. But still always come and moan at me that she’s on it when he walks past there bedroom.
  3. He will come and tell me every single time if DD2 is on her iPad or on her sisters gadgets. Every single time. I’ve got screen time on from 9am to 6pm and sometimes extend it depending on if she’s been doing other stuff all day and not been on her iPad. But even though it’s available to use all day she’s limited to 2hrs app time. So if she’s been 2hrs non stop on there she cannot continue on it unless she asks me.
  4. Brushing of teeth: every single night after I’ve kissed them whether they’ve come downstairs or I’ve gone up and told them get ready for bed i.e. pjs on and teeth. He will shout up brush your teeth. He will then pretend to go to the toilet to go and feel if their toothbrushes are wet. And go on and on if one of the girls happened to not have done it.
  5. He now also during lockdown go in every morning and put their toothbrushes in a particular position to see if they’ve moved it. If it hasn’t moved it proofs that they haven’t yet again brush their teeth. And use it against them for something. Every bloody time. Most of the time the girls are currently especially during lockdown in their onesies. So yes tend to forget stuff like brushing their teeth as they tend to have breakfast after JoeWicks and then start school work at 10.
  6. He is constantly onto DD1 about showering. It’s lockdown. Most of the time she finds excuses right now. My thinking is she will struggle and she’ll stink if she doesn’t shower so she’s old enough to know better. He is constantly making note of when she had a shower. So I flipped last week and said what if she starts her period (she hasn’t yet) will you also be on and aware of it all the time. I would have hated that if I was her age.
  7. DD2 is working downstairs as she’s only 9 and DD1 in her own room. Every now and then he will come downstairs and if DD2 is doing anything remotely that doesn’t look school work related he will make comments and reference to it or “questioning” if we are actually doing school work.
  8. Bed time: for years my girls slept 7pm to 7am. Until I started to feel sorry for them as I know their friends sleep later. 2 years ago that was extended to 8pm. Now I personally don’t mind if it’s 8:30 to 9 during term time for DD2 and 9-10 for DD1. Its lockdown so I honestly would not have been all that bothered. But whether it’s normal school days or weekends or holidays he is constantly moaning about bed time. Saying he needs his alone time and chill out time. He goes to bed at 9:15. So most evenings I’m there on my own. I have always been the type of parent who had a 7-7 bedtime routine but flexible with my girls as youngsters so if we were heading to a playgroup or meeting a friend and they fell asleep on their way I’d still go as they’ll sleep in pushchair or they’d fall asleep on their way home but I could always lift them out of pushchair and put them asleep into their cot with no make ups. Their dad was a massive asshole but my girls were very good babies/children.
  9. He hates it when the girls come in for cuddles in the morning as he doesn’t believe kids belong in their parents bedroom let alone if he isn’t there. But will quite happily like a photo of my friend who has 3 kids and her partner who has 2 kids and her having all 5 on her bed.
Please tell me that I have every reason to lose my shit. My biggest worry is my eldest is almost a teenager and she’s going to have friends in and out of our house or want to stay up even later. The girls love him and id hate for them to be older and resent him when he does such a lot for them. But they’d end up resenting him as he behaves like a snitch. Every single time when they are doing stuff that’s very small he runs to me. Every every time. So AIBU to tell him to just bloody stop it and enjoy this age and stage the girls are at as they really are not difficult kids. Please help!
OP posts:
pickingdaisies · 13/05/2020 09:05

@IsHeAnal you are definitely one strong woman, but then, you told us that! I'm so sorry that people filled the gap while you were sitting those exams to write some really unhelpful posts. Thankfully there were some diamonds buried in the rubbish, from some brave caring people. Wishing you success in the remaining exams, and happiness for you and your girls.

OlaEliza · 13/05/2020 09:09

In a week or so, when your girls have relaxed a bit and know he's not coming back, I'd sit and gave a chat and find out what they really thought about him. I bet you'll be surprised.

Well done op, you've done the best thing for your kids 👏

Italiangreyhound · 13/05/2020 09:25

Good luck with the exams. Flowers

Oliversmumsarmy · 13/05/2020 09:31

Even if there wasn’t anything going on, the things he did would get on my t*ts so much.

It is niggles you can do without.

It sounded like you were living with 2 dds and an annoying bullying teenager

Hiding things to see if your dds loved you or their iPad more.
What sort of person even thinks about that

fruitbrewhaha · 13/05/2020 09:43

I'm glad you are doing what's right for you OP.

I'm sorry if I wasn't supportive. I still don't fully understand the responses you got here (but clearly I don't need to). But the relationship was clearly not working if he as overstepping boundaries and couldn't change his behaviour.

Good luck with your studies and the future.

Clancey · 13/05/2020 09:46

FFS you lot make me bastard sick! I've not read it all but from what I have read one starts screaming paedo & everyone repeats in parrot fashion. Missing the soaps are we? Unless you have something really worth saying just leave the OP alone!

OP, I don't blame you if you don't come back, although it would probably kill these vultures. I'd just like to say that I've never had kids & am a step parent, & I've really struggled with this over the years. I'd got no idea how to behave as these weren't my kids, I wasn't the mom or the dad, so who was I, & what the hell do I do with them? I did what I thought best, & more often than not I got it wrong. I've moaned at the kids behaviour especially at night, & I was completely baffled with their personal hygiene habits, & not happy when I cooked meals & they didn't eat them.

No excuses but I am OCD, of course many of us will have things that have happened to us in our lives that will effect us & our behaviour towards other people in one way or another. There will always be problems in "normal" family relationships, but probably more so with step families. Whilst this has been turned into your worst mares, but for some of the people on here MN is the most exciting thing that ever happens to them. But you already know that OP as you seem to have more about you than most, & only you can decide what to do with whatever this is.

ConnieDoodle · 13/05/2020 09:49

FFS you lot make me bastard sick! I've not read it all

Maybe start by reading it all then. Ffs.

LemonBreeland · 13/05/2020 09:53

Good luck in the exams OP. I think you have been incredibly brave and strong. I imagine when you started this thread you had no idea it would end up like this.

I wish a peaceful life to you and your DDs.

SoloJazz · 13/05/2020 10:27

I'm so glad he is out, please take care of yourself! Flowers

BackseatCookers · 13/05/2020 10:34

Whilst this has been turned into your worst mares, but for some of the people on here MN is the most exciting thing that ever happens to them.

If you'd bothered to read everything you'd see many people have actually shared deeply personal and painful stories and vital safeguarding signs that are invaluable for parents to know when they are living with children. I don't watch soaps but I do give a shit about children's safety.

REignbow · 13/05/2020 10:42

Well done OP and good luck with your exams.

Ignore the less than supportive posts, sometimes AIBU brings out both the best and worse in people.

Also, to all those that have shared some deeply personal stories Flowers

billy1966 · 13/05/2020 10:47

A very shocking, stomach churning situation for you to have found yourself in.

The posts of people's experience were so chilling and so very brave.

I've certainly learnt a lot from this thread.

The cunning of potential abusers in grooming both family and child is so terrifying.

OP, I don't believe you will regret this action.

It will be interesting for you to see your dynamic with your girls with him gone.

The very best of luck with your exams.
So difficult to be doing them at this time.

So important for your family's future.

Flowers

Wishing you the best.

Quicklittlenamechange · 13/05/2020 11:00

OP I think people were responding with extreme shock at your post which was very angry towards those who had simply answered your question, they didnt know you had exams, they answered the question you posted but perhaps it was the unexpected answers you got and nit the best time to hear them ?
It must be shocking for you to realise what has gone on and that hes not just "anal" but potentially grooming you and your DC.
This thread made my blood run cold.
I hope your exams go well, stay strong and I hope in a few days your anger will turn onto the correct target -him.

MulticolourMophead · 13/05/2020 11:15

Good luck, OP, both with your exams and your future Thanks

Mammatino · 13/05/2020 11:23

Good luck, I think you have been great throughout this. Your life has been pulled apart in a couple of days, you identified a danger and dealt with it. People forget that these posts are real life situations.

TooTrusting · 13/05/2020 11:30

OP well done. It took me 3 years to do what you did, by which time he had not only abused the DCs as well as me and had swindled me out of over 1/3 of my total assets, and our lives had become very entwined.

Inkpaperstars · 13/05/2020 11:46

Well done OP, you have done the right thing.

FizzyGreenWater · 13/05/2020 11:46

People forget that these posts are real life situations.

No. They don't. Which is exactly why OP got the replies she did.

Almost 500 posts within a few hours from hundreds of completely different people presumably right across the country, metaphorically yelling at OP to see the red flags practically every single one of them could see, with some people sadly able to give real-life comparable situations they'd lived themselves. They cared, because it IS real life.

I feel for OP going through this experience and having to read those posts, but I'm bloody glad that every one of them was posted, because without that onslaught, without that sheer weight of people all going FUCKING HELL WHAT ARE YOU DOING - he would still be there. Something may have been triggered in OP and she may have started thinking more deeply about the instincts that triggered her to write the post... but she wouldn't have told him to go. In fact, a slew of 'Aw hun talk to him' posts would have done nothing but reassure her that his actions could be explained away, we all parent differnetly blah blah. And OP would have wanted to believe that. We would ALL want to believe that.

These responses put that completely off the table.

I take my hat off to OP and the way she's responded so quickly once her instincts were confirmed by the strength of feeling on here (note: I don't say 'listened to all these posters' - she already knew things were off, what she did was acted on her instinct, allowed it to come to the surface. The onslaught helped that happen, but her instincts were there).

I didn't think OP would act quickly if at all. I posted harshly. But not out of a desire to put the boot in, but out of a horrible gut feeling that two girls were very probably living with an abuser. That horrible feeling through the screen - what can you say to jolt them, to make them listen?

I'm so glad he's out and I am absolutely fine with OP being angry at the posts. She has a right to be, but I'm still glad they happened if it tipped the balance and helped get him gone.

B1rdbra1n · 13/05/2020 11:46

I wish you all the best OP and I'm so sorry for all those who have had similar experiences with predators💐
These things are very painful and very damaging, at least we can share our experiences and help other people to spot the signs.

RandomMess · 13/05/2020 11:59

@IsHeAnal it's a relief to read that you've sent him packing.

It's clear he was playing a long game of control/abuse (whether nasty/emotional/sexual). It was a very very very slow boiling frog scenario.

I hope the exams went ok and your DDs are doing well Thanks

Soon2BeMumof3 · 13/05/2020 11:59

Well done OP. You've got this.

Best of luck Thanks

ChandlerIsTheBestFriend · 13/05/2020 12:38

Very well done OP.

You have 100% made the right decision.

Colom · 13/05/2020 12:47

Well done OP. You have absolutely done the right thing and your daughters will admire you for it when they grow up.

Between putting their happiness first and making hard decisions while in the midst of exams you are being a fantastic role model. I wish you and your girls a very happy future Flowers

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/05/2020 12:50

Clancey
You are equating your experience, which is clearly completely different. Post upon post of people genuinely worried about two young girls. This man was not lovingly and wisely taking on the role of stepfather whilst committing a few errors along the way.

But hey, we are vultures! 🙄

Catmaiden · 13/05/2020 12:54

Well done OP, you've done the right thing. I found this thread very hard to read, having been abused as a child by my Uncle. I wasn't believed, when I finally did tell someone. I had to carry on seeing him every week, for years.
You listened, when you were told, and your instincts were good. Well done for protecting your DD's Flowers

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