Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

7pm Boris speech thread - anyone want to join?

770 replies

Therealfatshady · 10/05/2020 18:51

I'm a nervy bee and thought it would be fun to watch with you all!

OP posts:
1forsorrow · 10/05/2020 22:11

Here's a link if you can bear to listen to him again www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52609952. I've listened to it again and I can't hear anything about nurseries, he is specific about it being reception year 1 and year 6 going back at the earlier on 1st June.

He also didn't say how far you could drive, just that you could go for a drive.

Focusanddetermination · 10/05/2020 22:12

If reception and year 1 go back, will wrap around care like before and after school clubs resume, and if parents of those children are expected to return to work how will they do so if not? Until lockdown I had grandparents doing morning drop off because I drive quite far to work and have to leave before breakfast club starts and they may be unwilling to help out in June and I wouldn't blame them. Would expect many parents to face this sort of difficulty, and not all will have an understanding and flexible employer.

RedToothBrush · 10/05/2020 22:12

Nurseries were not mentioned. However at least the Telegraph is reporting nurseries to return when Reception and Yr 6 do.

1forsorrow · 10/05/2020 22:13

No he didn't mention the other years just Reception Year 1 and Year 6, and then exam year, 10 and 12, having sometime with teachers.

VaTeLaverLesMains · 10/05/2020 22:14

The driving to exercise and unlimited exercise change is not until Wednesday. I had missed that.

chomalungma · 10/05/2020 22:19

I think good luck to whoever is explaining this in Parliament tomorrow and in the TV interviews and the evening briefing.

Mittens030869 · 10/05/2020 22:23

if you can't get childcare, you can't work.'

So what do millions of parent do if their work opens but all childcare is shut.

Exactly. And what will key workers do, if their primary children are in years 2-5? As it stands, it sounds as if their DC will no longer qualify for a school place when they did before.

Very badly thought through. Hmm

VerticalHorizon · 10/05/2020 22:26

Children of key workers can still go to school - that's not changed (only if single parent, or both are keyworkers)

EdwynCollins · 10/05/2020 22:29

Did he mention MH services?
One of my DC is suffering with the removal of CAMHS services. Telephone contact just doesn't help

Namechangex10000 · 10/05/2020 22:38

I thought he said reception, year 1 and year 6.

I can’t reallt fathom why those are the key years? Why are reception and year 1 going back but not 2,3,4? I need that explaining purely because I don’t get it, I would have thought the younger years are the ones with a much longer time ahead of them to “make up” for the loss of schooling, and I really really don’t understand year 6, their exams have been cancelled, their end of year celebrations cancelled, their education would have surely be primarily focussed on the now cancelled exams? Obviously everybody’s situation is different, but my DS goes to an extraordinarily small school, each and every child in his year are moving onto different schools, he’s used to and seemingly over it now, I think it would be tough to send them back then make them leave a second time,

LakieLady · 10/05/2020 22:51

He made it quite clear public transport services will be adhering to social distancing, I imagine in a similar fashion to supermarkets

Won't that just mean that the trains from, say, Brighton to London, will be at the maximum for social distancing very early on in the journey and the people waiting at Hassocks or Haywards Heath will only be able to get on if enough people get off?

MyBlueMoonbeam · 10/05/2020 22:56

Hes made everything so vague that if it all fucks up the blame will not be at his door.

This with bells on 🙄

MyBlueMoonbeam · 10/05/2020 22:59

Those of you complaining that nurseries aren't reopening.
Any suggestions for guidelines as to how to socially distance the under 5s very welcome.

Also how to change a nappy etc. without PPE

Oysterbabe · 10/05/2020 23:00

They are reopening.

MyBlueMoonbeam · 10/05/2020 23:02

Oysterbabe

And the guidelines are what???

wafflyversatile · 10/05/2020 23:02

So threats of fines for us if we sit on the grass the wrong way but no threat of fines for employers who breach (probably piss poor)guidance.

And lots of do but dont but do.

Mnthrowaway20202 · 10/05/2020 23:04

Is there a paraphrased summary of his announcement anywhere?

Oysterbabe · 10/05/2020 23:05

They will be operating as normal, as they are now for keyworkers children. Many nurseries never closed and the children are still cuddled, played with and nappies changed. Social distancing is not something that can be practiced in nurseries.

ineedaholidaynow · 10/05/2020 23:06

@Namechangex10000 I think some of the reasoning for YR and Y1 are as follows:

  • hard to WFH and help teach those years
  • Some children will not be getting any schooling at the moment at home, particularly no reading, so will be hugely disadvantaged. Whereas at least Y2 and above will already have the basics from having been at school for at least a couple of years
  • possibly not been in school long enough to be on school radar if vulnerable

Y6 pupils will really struggle starting in Secondary if have been away from school for 6 months. I assume some form of transition will happen too. Maybe, they are also thinking about their mental welfare as have missed all the things that you normally do after SATS. Not that they will be able to do any of them, but maybe they think they need a bit more closure on their Primary years. Not sure whether this will apply for those areas where Y6 is not the final year at the school, as I think some go up to Y8.

maresydoats · 10/05/2020 23:11

As others have said, the message was deliberately vague in order to blame us eventually if infection rates escalate.

MyBlueMoonbeam · 10/05/2020 23:13

Social distancing is not something that can be practiced in nurseries.

I'm well aware of that being a childcare professional myself.

For the families of children that have been in lockdown it is not possible to ensure the continuation of their safety and protection if there aren't clear guidelines as to social distancing in childcare - full stop.

MyBlueMoonbeam · 10/05/2020 23:13

Or the protection of staff either.

maresydoats · 10/05/2020 23:18

Nursery and teaching staff do not appear to have been given a lot of respect in England pre Covid either. And that does not appear to be changing.

It is a two way street. Where I live teachers and Montessori/pre school staff are treated with the greatest of respect.

Staff are vulnerable to infection from kids/students. Bottom line. They need to be protected too, and not looked upon as free childcare.

MyBlueMoonbeam · 10/05/2020 23:19

@maresydoats

Completely agree it's exactly the same in Ireland where I live 😏

MyBlueMoonbeam · 10/05/2020 23:20

The no respect I mean 🙁