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AIBU to feel deceived and struggle to forgive DP for his lie?

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HowdyBubble · 10/05/2020 14:50

Long story short - been with DP just over a year. Don't live together but moved in together briefly for lockdown. When we met, he told me he is a smoker but in the process of giving up (that he'd been trying for ages) and was even chewing nicotine gum when he turned up for our first date.

He's usually fine on the nicotine gum and almost never has tobacco in the house and only slips up if he visits his friends' house (who is a heavy smoker). I found it difficult that he'd always give into temptation if someone smoked around him and alluded to the fact that I don't see myself dating a smoker long term - he took this as an ultimatum (which I guess it was) and got upset but also more determined to try and quit fully.

He told me he would try the stop smoking seminar that is supposed to be really good but obviously, I know we can't right now as everything is shut due to covid.

Unfortunately, me moving was only a couple of weeks after I said the "ultimatum" and I guess he was a bit stung by it. I told him even on the first date that I can't stand smokers (for so many reasons including their health, my health and the grossness factor of it). He weaned himself off the nicotine gum and was doing well for a few days which I was really pleased about. Yet, he'd use the more absurd reasons to justify going to his smoker friend's house and then drink followed by smoke, slip up and then go into extreme self pity, apologizing and saying he's ashamed of himself. Every time this happened, he would always promise that despite him slipping up, he would always be honest about it and never lie to me and in return he just asks for my patience on the journey to quitting smoking. I understood and agreed. When he slips up, he is very receptive to "feedback" and I suggested maybe he should avoid going to see that particular heavily smoking friend whilst he's trying to get rid of this addiction as being in that environment is making quitting much harder. He agreed yet would want to go over again a few days later.

The last time he went over, he made no mention he slipped up when he came back but said he was going to try a different method of quitting from now on. I could smell the cigarettes on him and the next day when he was being moody and blaming me for something, I suggested it might be nicotine withdrawal that's making him feel irritated - he got angry and told me it wouldn't be because he smoked yesterday. He said it so proudly and spitefully, it shocked me. He said I wanted him to fail, etc.

After that, I just went home and he said since then it's been much easier to generally abstain from smoking most of the time as he didn't feel the pressure of being watched/nagged. A lot of the nagging he feels wasn't directly me nagging but even if I recoil because of the smell, etc. he thinks I'm nagging. I know the golden rule of quitting is that the person needs to want to quit THEMSELVES. I've said maybe he subconsciously doesn't want to quit and is only doing it for me. He strongly denies this and said he really wants to quit (a lot of his family members have died of smoking related illnesses and he wouldn't even date a smoker himself as he finds the smell off-putting on others and has really really wanted to quit himself way before he even met me.

Since, he has apologised loads about making me feel bad about it and sorry for being somewhat deceptive but I still feel a bit hurt. In a lot of ways the relationship is amazing but I don't know if I'm being over-sensitive in finding the one time deceptiveness really hurtful or if I am overreacting? I know addiction is hard and I don't feel angry at his slip-ups along the way to quitting but I do feel angry being lied to when he gave me his word he'd always be honest about it (it's only because he gave me that promise that I feel so bad I guess). He is like the most honest person I have ever met - almost frightfully honest about everything and anything so this has shaken me a little I guess. Even this, he confessed the day after angrily so it wasn't full deceptiveness either but still hurts.

Am I being unreasonable in struggle to forgive this one lie? or would you feel the same?

OP posts:
WaterOffADucksCrack · 10/05/2020 14:56

God just end the relationship! You don't want to be with a smoker. He is a smoker. He's lied to you. You're treating him like you're some sort of manager with the "feedback" etc. He'll quit if and when he's ready. The whole thing soundd exhausting.

Pomegranateseeds · 10/05/2020 15:02

Whilst it's your right to be with a non-smoker, you can't control him and what he does. I think you need to either end it or agree that he will only do it when not around you, and maybe have a shower/brush teeth/wash clothes plan before he spends time with you.
Honestly, you come across as a little controlling and on your high horse.

WeakAndWeary · 10/05/2020 15:02

When he slips up, he is very receptive to "feedback"

Is he? Feedback? I guess by that you mean nagging at him? Counter-productive. He will never give up because of 'feedback'.

Just end it. He'll thank you for it.

vanillandhoney · 10/05/2020 15:04

You're dating a smoker. Either accept it or break up with him, but issuing ultimatums to an addict won't end well for you!

monkeymonkey2010 · 10/05/2020 15:06

He's lying to himself and lying to you deliberately.
This will be a pattern that haunts you for as long as you're with him.

Someone who is serious about giving up would be honest about how difficult they find it - and exercise more self control.

He pretends to be 'giving up' in order to keep you hanging on.
Probably thinks you'll get used to it and soon stop having such an 'issue' with it.
I know it's early days, but you've already shown him that your boundaries re dating smokers are not strong and that you're easily swayed.

He IS a smoker - and prefers to lie and go on the offense when you question his deception.
He's not been 'smoke-free' long enough for you to judge whether he can keep it up - what if he decides to start again a few years down the line?
What if you have a kid to him by then and are dependent on him financially?

He doesn't want to give up smoking, he's pretending to cos he feel he has to.......

OutOfHours · 10/05/2020 15:06

Watching over his shoulder every 5 minutes will not help.

Giving up smoking isn't like turning a tap off, I think you are pushing him a little too much.

Do you have a stop smoking service in your area?
I contacted mine for me and DH on a Sunday, received a call back the following day, and 4 days later I had a prescription for a pill that blocks the receptors that crave nicotine.

Instead of berating him for failing (which is why he has lied) be supportive, and understanding, or just end the relationship if this isn't something you want to do.

Best of luck whatever you decide.

Fleetheart · 10/05/2020 15:09

You either accept him as he is or stop seeing him
It’s simple
More concerning is him going off to meet friends all the time; surely he shouldn’t be seeing anyone anyhow as we are all locked down

FabbyChix · 10/05/2020 15:09

You know it’s addictive right that his body craves it like a heroin addict craves heroin

gamerchick · 10/05/2020 15:12

He's a smoker, he'll quit if and when he's ready. You don't want to be with a smoker.

That's it really. You either suck it up or end it. You can't do this Inbetween thing of giving him grief all the time.

HowdyBubble · 10/05/2020 15:16

Thanks for the responses to this. I feel painfully conflicted.

He says to be patient with him but I don't know how long is too long to wait if someone will quit. Equally I'd feel bad ending a relationship that has the possibility of being the closest to perfection I ever had over something that COULD go away (that something being a gross addiction that he has wanted to get rid since before he met me).

OP posts:
helpmum2003 · 10/05/2020 15:18

I would end the relationship, he's a smoker and you don't want to be with one.

roarfeckingroar · 10/05/2020 15:24

My partner smoked when we met. He knew I wouldn't date a smoker long term. He doesn't smoke anymore.

You're not being controlling to have your boundaries, including ending a relationship because of smoking. He sounds a bit of a moody, weak-willed prick anyway.

DeeCeeCherry · 10/05/2020 15:25

So he's dumping his inability to quit on your shoulders - It's 'your fault' he's slipping up, due to you nagging him. He's not taking responsibility for his own actions.

He's not ready to quit and whilst he may love you, he loves cigarettes more. Whats the point of all this tug of war over a mere 1 year relationship? It will all go downhill as you're with a smoker yet you don't like smoke around you.

when he was being moody and blaming me for something, I suggested it might be nicotine withdrawal that's making him feel irritated - he got angry and told me it wouldn't be because he smoked yesterday. He said it so proudly and spitefully, it shocked me

^^ Read what you've written back to yourself. He has to want to stop. He doesn't, and you can't make him. Best to leave him, you are incompatible.

minettechatouette · 10/05/2020 15:26

Yeah, I think if you don't want to date a smoker you shouldn't date a smoker. If you want to date this guy - who is a smoker - then it's fine to support him to quit, but you can't force him to do so, and it's not fair to berate him if he doesn't manage it.

CatFaceCats · 10/05/2020 15:29

I’m sure I’ve read this before - using the “friend” as excuse to drink/smoke and then the overly dramatic apologies?

VladmirsPoutine · 10/05/2020 15:29

You've really gone overboard in your post! You've made a whole drama over not wanting to be with a smoker. Just break up with him. You can't control anyone.

Porcupineinwaiting · 10/05/2020 15:32

Wtf have you started dating a smoker if you hate smoking so much? Bit like starting dating a fat person and then going on and on about them about their weight.

I hate smoking so I don't date smokers. Keeps it nice and simple.

TheNewSchmoo · 10/05/2020 15:35

You sound very intense. He's not a child, you are not his boss. He lied to you as he felt he had to.
As someone else wrote, it sounds exhausting. Poor man.

Unravellingslowly · 10/05/2020 15:36

He says to be patient with him but I don't know how long is too long to wait if someone will quit

I know someone who’s OH said this. He didn’t give up & 5 years on she loves him too much to walk away but resents him for never actually giving up.

Twigletfairy · 10/05/2020 15:40

If you don't like smoking, don't date a smoker.

If you want to stay with him, you have to persevere. My husband has never smoked. When I met him I smoked but wanted to quit. It took me over 2 years to quit after I met him. It wasn't that I didn't want to, it's bloody hard. I've now been smoke free over 5+ years. If someone was nagging me all the time I would have found it harder to quit too

THEDEACON · 10/05/2020 15:40

get rid and move on Never date a smoker and the situation won't arise

SpencerReidsMistress · 10/05/2020 15:43

You posted this week's ago. I even remember the nicotine on the first date and him slipping up when he goes to friends. You had some really good advice on the last thread.

june2007 · 10/05/2020 15:43

My oh was/is a amoker I knew that from day one. He also knew I didn,t like ti. He is currenly no smoking. (a few months now.) and has been non smoker in the past and started again. FRiends has a lot to do with it. Ultimately it is up to him. I except him for who he is. I dislike the smoking but there is more to him then this. I think you have encouraged your oh to be secretive. My oh has said in the past I din,t want to tell you, but ofcourse i smelt it but he didn,t want to be nagged at. (I didn,t anyway.) Either except him as he is and encourgae him to stop smoking, but understand he may not stop. Or don,t be with him.

tara66 · 10/05/2020 15:46

Hypnosis is very effective and works immediately with smoking.

OmgThereAreNoPlanesAboveMeNow · 10/05/2020 15:47

You didn't want a smoker, but started dating smoker🤷🏻

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