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AIBU to feel deceived and struggle to forgive DP for his lie?

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HowdyBubble · 10/05/2020 14:50

Long story short - been with DP just over a year. Don't live together but moved in together briefly for lockdown. When we met, he told me he is a smoker but in the process of giving up (that he'd been trying for ages) and was even chewing nicotine gum when he turned up for our first date.

He's usually fine on the nicotine gum and almost never has tobacco in the house and only slips up if he visits his friends' house (who is a heavy smoker). I found it difficult that he'd always give into temptation if someone smoked around him and alluded to the fact that I don't see myself dating a smoker long term - he took this as an ultimatum (which I guess it was) and got upset but also more determined to try and quit fully.

He told me he would try the stop smoking seminar that is supposed to be really good but obviously, I know we can't right now as everything is shut due to covid.

Unfortunately, me moving was only a couple of weeks after I said the "ultimatum" and I guess he was a bit stung by it. I told him even on the first date that I can't stand smokers (for so many reasons including their health, my health and the grossness factor of it). He weaned himself off the nicotine gum and was doing well for a few days which I was really pleased about. Yet, he'd use the more absurd reasons to justify going to his smoker friend's house and then drink followed by smoke, slip up and then go into extreme self pity, apologizing and saying he's ashamed of himself. Every time this happened, he would always promise that despite him slipping up, he would always be honest about it and never lie to me and in return he just asks for my patience on the journey to quitting smoking. I understood and agreed. When he slips up, he is very receptive to "feedback" and I suggested maybe he should avoid going to see that particular heavily smoking friend whilst he's trying to get rid of this addiction as being in that environment is making quitting much harder. He agreed yet would want to go over again a few days later.

The last time he went over, he made no mention he slipped up when he came back but said he was going to try a different method of quitting from now on. I could smell the cigarettes on him and the next day when he was being moody and blaming me for something, I suggested it might be nicotine withdrawal that's making him feel irritated - he got angry and told me it wouldn't be because he smoked yesterday. He said it so proudly and spitefully, it shocked me. He said I wanted him to fail, etc.

After that, I just went home and he said since then it's been much easier to generally abstain from smoking most of the time as he didn't feel the pressure of being watched/nagged. A lot of the nagging he feels wasn't directly me nagging but even if I recoil because of the smell, etc. he thinks I'm nagging. I know the golden rule of quitting is that the person needs to want to quit THEMSELVES. I've said maybe he subconsciously doesn't want to quit and is only doing it for me. He strongly denies this and said he really wants to quit (a lot of his family members have died of smoking related illnesses and he wouldn't even date a smoker himself as he finds the smell off-putting on others and has really really wanted to quit himself way before he even met me.

Since, he has apologised loads about making me feel bad about it and sorry for being somewhat deceptive but I still feel a bit hurt. In a lot of ways the relationship is amazing but I don't know if I'm being over-sensitive in finding the one time deceptiveness really hurtful or if I am overreacting? I know addiction is hard and I don't feel angry at his slip-ups along the way to quitting but I do feel angry being lied to when he gave me his word he'd always be honest about it (it's only because he gave me that promise that I feel so bad I guess). He is like the most honest person I have ever met - almost frightfully honest about everything and anything so this has shaken me a little I guess. Even this, he confessed the day after angrily so it wasn't full deceptiveness either but still hurts.

Am I being unreasonable in struggle to forgive this one lie? or would you feel the same?

OP posts:
VettiyaIruken · 10/05/2020 16:30

He won't stop until he 100% wants to.
He is stalling for time with you.

Either accept he's a smoker or end things.

changeuser · 10/05/2020 16:31

I can’t believe the length of your post tbh
A new couple shouldn’t have all of this stress and nagging your not compatible move on

Friendsofmine · 10/05/2020 16:32

Sounds like you're in a relationship with someone you think you can change into someone you want to be in a relationship with. You can't change people. Take him as he is or don't take him at all.

^spot on

Also I'd dump him for socialising recklessly whilst hospital workers are dying.

1Morewineplease · 10/05/2020 16:33

OP, is this the same man that @WeakAndWeary has just referred to ?

StCharlotte · 10/05/2020 16:33

You can have a smoker or a liar. You choose.

user1635482648 · 10/05/2020 16:35

I gather you didn't like the responses you got on your previous thread about this situation?

Luckingfovely · 10/05/2020 16:39

You sound like you're treating him like a child, so it's no surprise that's he's acting like one.

The bottom line is that you should never have got involved with a smoker in the first place.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 10/05/2020 16:42

He really isn’t very receptive to feedback what he is good at is appearing to be agreeing with you to get your off his back

Accept he smokes or move on

littlebirdieblue · 10/05/2020 16:43

If you don't want to be with a smoker then end the relationship. He's a smoker and he's not ready to stop. You can't force someone to change themselves for you, if you aren't happy with the way he is, then he isn't the right man for you. Move on and find a non smoker.

DameFanny · 10/05/2020 16:44

You maintaining your boundaries isn't nagging. You recoiling from a smell you don't like isn't nagging.

Nagging is a put down used by mostly men to stop people - mostly women - from asserting boundaries or reminding them of commitments. It's a word used to control you, and it can get to fuck.

Tell your DP you don't want to control him, you don't want to be his counselor or his mother, you just want a non-smoking partner. If he chooses not to be that person that's on him, but he needs to stop making it magically your fault that he chooses to smoke.

Bertucci · 10/05/2020 16:47

If this was reversed, everyone would be telling him to run for the hills. Too controlling.

LEELULUMPKIN · 10/05/2020 16:47

@tara66 It didn't for me. Total waste of time and money.

Bumsnet1 · 10/05/2020 16:48

You sound controlling.

Oknobutok · 10/05/2020 17:10

I wouldn't want to be with a smoker but equally wouldn't want to monitor my partner like this. He's a smoker so end the relationship as you don't want to be with a smoker.

Justaboy · 10/05/2020 17:11

Dost anyone know of any man or woman who is perfect?

Cos if they do let me know where i can find this perfect woman:)

Suppose i'll be a long time awaiting;(

StuckInnTheMiddle · 10/05/2020 17:17

To be honest, i think he needs to leave you. You sound incredibly controlling and hard work. Are either of you having fun in this relationship?

Look at this the other way. Woman posts saying she’s a smoker, met her dp who knew she was a smoker when they met. He’s now pressuring her to quit and giving her ‘feedback’ when she slips up. Stopped her seeing her friends so she isn’t tempted to smoke. Grilling her about it all the time and she is having to lie to him if she falls off the wagon. Everyone would be jumping on her about how controlling he was.

Just end it now. He won’t change and you won’t accept him the way he is. You are incompatible.

BumbleBeee69 · 10/05/2020 17:23

End this now... He is a Smoker.. the end Flowers

Maybeimweird · 10/05/2020 17:42

What a long and intense post, I didn't read it all. Seriously there arrw far more important things than this in a relationship

SpilltheTea · 10/05/2020 17:43

You knew he was a smoker, so why are you getting so shitty with him? I'm surprised he's putting up with that much grief. Just end it.

Onone · 10/05/2020 17:49

Give him a break,I’m an ex smoker you have no idea how hard it is to quit,if you don’t want him to lie to you then just let him smoke or dump him

HowdyBubble · 10/05/2020 17:52

@StuckInnTheMiddle But you're missing the detail what he told me he's really intent on quitting smoking even the day he met me before I told him my views on 1)whether I smoke 2)whether I'm ok dating someone who does (he was already chewing nicotine gum etc. and neither of us were looking for anything serious at the start so he wasn't trying to rope me in pretending he'd quit something and I didn't see him as long term (or even anything romantic) initially.

I'd met other guys before him who say "I'm a smoker full-stop" no mention of wanting to quit - those people I never meet again for another date.

My DP even says he's never in his life dated a smoker as he finds the smell gross on other people and he doesn't want to be with someone who approves of the gross habit. He often has had eureka moments recently such as "for the first time, I see that it's not me who wants nicotine, my body is tricking me. I know even if I satisfy that with a nicotine hit, I'll want it again at some point. It's a vicious cycle - I'm finally seeing it for what it is now"

OP posts:
LonginesPrime · 10/05/2020 17:58

God, just end it - you're not suited and it sounds like such hard work.

Unless you've got a complex where you feel the need to 'fix' people and this is actually fun for you, I'd just leave now.

crispysausagerolls · 10/05/2020 18:04

Do you think perhaps he is just telling you what you want to hear? Like the time my father dated a vegetarian and pretended he didn’t eat meat...didn’t end well.

Or he does want to quit. Like I’m sure 99% of smokers do. He knows it’s bad for him
And wants to quit but he’s an addict so that doesn’t mean he ever will. I don’t see what you don’t understand about that

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 10/05/2020 18:07

HowdyBubble he is good at telling you what you want to hear regardless if he believes it or not

Many people do this. And from your reactions will soon know what to say and not to say

Stop the analysis of what was said and not said. Fact is he is still smoking

The saying actions speak louder than words ......

PawPawNoodle · 10/05/2020 18:14

Christ if I were him I'd have left you ages ago.