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Reported neighbour now potential backlash, was Ibu?

176 replies

FailNameC · 07/05/2020 23:27

For context the house next door to me in a back to back, the one at the back is a housing association house who currently has a male tenant, he comes and goes. Last summer he was smoking weed in the garden whilst my children were playing and I asked if he could put it out which created some animosity.
He's currently having a party with 4 other people, loud music etc.
I reported it via the 101 website.
Police have been out and asked them to turn music down, they all said they lived there and the police left.
I could hear him once the police left something about 'stupid cunts next door' and 'I'll pop windows'.
I'm scared now! Wish I hadn't done it.
Wibu?

OP posts:
Mascotte · 08/05/2020 10:24

I think the op reported him for breaking lockdown in her view rather than the side issues.

MintyMabel · 08/05/2020 10:58

they all said they lived there and the police left.

I'm amazed you heard all that so clearly.

I'm also amazed people think the police just take people's word at face value and will toddle off happily. How are our prisons so overcrowded if all you have to do is say "it wasn't me" and the police say "oh, ok, off you go then"?

Cam2020 · 08/05/2020 11:06

@QualityFeet I completely agree.

Grasses? Snitches? I don't think I've heard these terms since leaving school.

rawlikesushi · 08/05/2020 11:10

"Exactly, there's a huge shortage of homes, why has a single man,( who displays anti social behaviour) got a HA flat when there are families in desperate need?"

Do people really think that someone should be evicted because they one (1) smoked weed a year ago but stopped doing it in the garden when asked, and (3) had a 'party' of four people on a bank holiday weekend?

Obviously lockdown makes the party more serious.

But eviction, homeless, for that?

DeeCeeCherry · 08/05/2020 11:20

Do people really think that someone should be evicted because they one (1) smoked weed a year ago but stopped doing it in the garden when asked, and (3) had a 'party' of four people on a bank holiday weekend?

Yes, many do it seems. Especially if they're not the right sort - you know, those awful council/HA tenants. They deserve to be homeless.

It's like Victor Meldrew on acid wearing over-tight strangulating judgey pants.

HaddawayAndShite · 08/05/2020 11:21

And this is another thread that makes me think since lockdown all the teenagers and trolls have joined Mumsnet. Some of the responses are absolutely bat shit crazy.

sashh · 08/05/2020 11:34

I'm impressed you got the police to come ut, I couldn't get them when someone was trying to break in to, "twat" me. Apparently middle aged disabled women are at fault when an unstable relative of a neighbour goes on a rampage.

OP

How long has the tennant been there? Social huosing by me is on a 6 month trial basis, if there are problems then they may cancel the tennancy or increas the probationary period.

Thelittleweasel · 08/05/2020 11:45

It's so difficult isn't it. I think I'd go along with you if only on the basis of the lockdown breach. It's unlikely of course but this is how the virus spreads we are told.

It is also illegal to possess [and by implication] to smoke cannabis. It is thought to be trivial but it is a Class B drug. If there is any direct threat call 999 not 101. I would also be tempted to make a record with the Housing Association as it is their property that will potentially be damaged

@FailNameC

WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 08/05/2020 13:43

Those saying just go and talk to him

You obviously have reasonable neighbours . Some round here would make your life hell for even raising an issue with them !!
If it was all as simple as in your heads and streets.!

WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 08/05/2020 13:44

Your snide comment about Housing Association house though pissed me off OP

Why does that matter ? Are they lesser for living in a HA property ?

HowCowBrownNow · 08/05/2020 13:47

But eviction, homeless, for that?
Yes, many do it seems. Especially if they're not the right sort - you know, those awful council/HA tenants. They deserve to be homeless.

If he is the single occupant then the house is under occupied. So many families are desperate for homes. Not saying he should be made homeless but it's not as difficult for a single adult to find accommodation.

He is clearly abusing the terms of his tenancy by playing loud music and probably smokes indoors too. He's giving Social housing tenants a bad name.

catfeets · 08/05/2020 13:50

Someone would have reported him anyway and he'd have assumed it was you.
We just had this with our awful neighbour. It wasn't us that called the police but she's assumed it was so now she has people trying to intimidate us and screaming abuse at us.

If they start anything then make sure you call 101. I know it's easier said than done - we just have to put up with it as we need to sell the house soon so don't want any trouble. If you're intending to stay there then stand your ground and don't let them push you around.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/05/2020 14:42

If he is the single occupant then the house is under occupied. So many families are desperate for homes. Not saying he should be made homeless but it's not as difficult for a single adult to find accommodation.

There are a lot of 'experts' on this thread. Many HAs and other housing providers house single people, often with disabilities. Or other challenges that make housing really hard. Please don't make HA workers' lives even more stressful right now reporting incredibly low level issues.

HowCowBrownNow · 08/05/2020 15:07

There are a lot of 'experts' on this thread. Many HAs and other housing providers house single people, often with disabilities. Or other challenges that make housing really hard. Please don't make HA workers' lives even more stressful right now reporting incredibly low level issues.

I wasn't suggesting OP reports him to the HA but in these times a single person is not entitled to a house, if it was a person with disabilities who needs live in carers it's different.
I know HA have one bed housing stock for single people , I'm sure if you would think differently if you were a family in need of social housing. In my opinion it's an absolute travesty, they should be encouraged to re house people and free up houses for families who need them.

PhilCornwall1 · 08/05/2020 17:12

There are a lot of 'experts' on this thread. Many HAs and other housing providers house single people, often with disabilities. Or other challenges that make housing really hard. Please don't make HA workers' lives even more stressful right now reporting incredibly low level issues.

Agree with this. Whilst I don't work for an HA, the area of the company I work for, works with them, a lot of them (it's what we do all the time) and over the last few weeks I see day to day just how pushed some of them are and have done a massive amount of work to try and make their lives easier, both covid related and otherwise.

There will be time enough to report this person to them, but now isn't the time if you are expecting instant results. If you are simply reporting related to the lockdown, the Police were the correct route.

I certainly also agree with the "experts" comment.

Hopkinsscar · 08/05/2020 17:13

but in these times a single person is not entitled to a house

They are if the housing association decides they are.

tenterden · 08/05/2020 17:18

If he is the single occupant then the house is under occupied.

I don't understand why you think this when you later acknowledge that there are plenty of one bed houses in the UK. Why should a single person not live in such a house? I am absolutely baffled by this.

momtoolliex · 08/05/2020 17:41

If someone posted a thread on here saying they had 4 friends round to smoke weed and listen to music during lockdown everyone would be going mad at them so I don't really see why the OP is in the wrong for reporting something that literally is against the rules atmConfused

HowCowBrownNow · 08/05/2020 18:24

I don't understand why you think this when you later acknowledge that there are plenty of one bed houses in the UK. Why should a single person not live in such a house? I am absolutely baffled by this.

I actually said one bed housing stock. I don't think HA or LA have ever built one bedroomed houses and I doubt very much that the anti social stoner lives in a house with only one bedroom.

pictish · 08/05/2020 18:28

My brother lives in a one bedroom HA property, purpose built. I used to live in one too. One bedroom. There are lots in my home town.

tenterden · 08/05/2020 18:32

Loads of one bed houses here where I live too (South Coast) and some have been bought for use as social housing.

HowCowBrownNow · 08/05/2020 18:37

My brother lives in a one bedroom HA property, purpose built. I used to live in one too. One bedroom. There are lots in my home town
Flat or bungalow?

Loads of one bed houses here where I live too (South Coast) and some have been bought for use as social housing.
So not purpose built by the HA?

opticaldelusion · 08/05/2020 18:45

I like the smell of weed. Far preferable to fags.

LakieLady · 08/05/2020 19:07

I wasn't suggesting OP reports him to the HA but in these times a single person is not entitled to a house, if it was a person with disabilities who needs live in carers it's different.
I know HA have one bed housing stock for single people , I'm sure if you would think differently if you were a family in need of social housing. In my opinion it's an absolute travesty, they should be encouraged to re house people and free up houses for families who need them

Councils have a duty to house single people who are homeless if they are care leavers, vulnerable because of illness (including mental health issues) or disability and, in some areas, armed forces veterans. This can be achieved by nomination for HA tenancies as council housing is in such short supply.

If someone is single and in LA/HA accommodation originally allocated to them as a family that has since split up, they will be encouraged to downsize into one-bed social housing, rather than continue to under-occupy.

Some councils (mine being one) have an unusually high proportion of one-bedroom accommodation which is not suitable for families, so they will often exceed their statutory duty rather than leave these properties empty, and allocate one-bed flats to people who aren't in priority need.

I don't believe OP has told us how many bedrooms are in her neighbour's property.

LakieLady · 08/05/2020 19:17

I don't think HA or LA have ever built one bedroomed houses and I doubt very much that the anti social stoner lives in a house with only one bedroom.

Wow, you've experience of the housing stock of every single LA and HA in the country, have you?

I concede that 1-bed houses are relatively rare, but I've supported clients who live in them. And my brother was allocated one on his discharge from hospital many years ago.

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