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To be English and think Nicols Sturgeon would be a better PM

274 replies

Lifejacket · 07/05/2020 13:34

Just that really, I live in England but would quite happily vote for NS to be PM if given the choice over BJ. To me she seems much more trustworthy and has shown better leadership.

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MissEliza · 08/05/2020 17:20

When my dm was in hospital, there was a lovely nurse who had a problem in an area in which my dad was an expert in. Mum asked dad to help her. He went through everything with her then concluded her only option was to escalate it. He said you need to contact your MSP, who is it? She said Nicole Sturgeon and I've contacted her office so many times but they never get back to me. Df was disgusted - he frequently worked with MPs and councillors working on behalf of their constituents. Saying that, I'd imagine Boris couldn't give a crap about his constituents. TM is a fantastic local MP. I work in her constituency and she's done loads for people, even when PM.
Dad knows a lot of people still in the political scene and has been told many times that she is rude and uncooperative toward politicians from other parties. The SNP are the nasty party north of the border.

Grilledaubergines · 08/05/2020 17:37

God no. She’s so anti-English and can’t even be arsed to hide it.

ssd · 08/05/2020 18:02

Nonsense. A load of made up nonsense. It's amazing the stories that creep out at these times, or the 'I knew someone who worked with...'

Alwaysthesun · 08/05/2020 18:50

Well, policies aside, I've got to say, I came into contact with her many times during previous job roles and she is a genuinely decent and people focused person. Fiona Hislop and Alex Salmond I wouldn't have a nice thing to say about - I really wouldn't.

ducksback · 08/05/2020 18:52

She is dreadful and anti-woman as well. No thanks.

TheSandman · 08/05/2020 19:35

God no. She’s so anti-English and can’t even be arsed to hide it.

Examples please.

Hueandcry · 08/05/2020 20:21

Personally I think she is neither anti-English or anti-women but I'll I'll listen to your back up to these statements, if you have any?

ducksback · 09/05/2020 00:01

She supports men id-ing as women being allowed in to women's safe spaces. That is a very anti woman stance.

Iggi999 · 09/05/2020 00:30

It's hard to find any politicians these days who don't agree with self-ID - they do exist, but rarer than hens' teeth.

Peppafrig · 09/05/2020 00:44

@Grilledaubergines can you post examples of this ?

TheSandman · 09/05/2020 00:48

@Peppafrig

Don't hold your breath. I asked for examples hours ago and been deafened by the silence in response.

ducksback · 09/05/2020 00:51

It's hard to find any politicians these days who don't agree with self-ID - they do exist, but rarer than hens' teeth

Fair point. Sad

ducksback · 09/05/2020 00:51

Although I think Liz Truss might have her wits about her on this so fingers crossed.

shinyredbus · 09/05/2020 00:54

😂😂😂😂 don’t be so ridiculous 😂😂

ducksback · 09/05/2020 01:04

What is ridiculous?

ifeeltheneedtheneedforsleep · 09/05/2020 01:23

I'm Scottish living in England and Sturgeon and her Nat cronies are the reason I will never move back. The anti-English rhetoric that so many nationalists spew is disgusting and I'll never subject my two children (who were born in England) to that. There's an awful lot of nationalists still mentally living in the time of the battle of bannockburn sadly.

MissEliza · 09/05/2020 02:24

@ifeeltheneedtheneedforsleep well said. English MNetters please don't be fooled. The SNP are a thoroughly racist ie anti English party.

ZombieFan · 09/05/2020 03:02

I dont understand how Scottish nationalists can be so pro independence for themselves but so against the rest of the UK having independence. It is simple racism.

HirplesWithHaggis · 09/05/2020 03:30

I would love England to declare independence from Scotland, Wales and Northen Ireland. Go for it!

Dita73 · 09/05/2020 05:28

Not only are you being unreasonable I think you must also be as pissed as a fart to suggest such a thing!

trellishead · 09/05/2020 05:47

Well yes, she wants independence because there are NO elected Conservatives in Scotland now. That should tell you something about the tory agenda.... But it's wasted here.

trellishead · 09/05/2020 05:48

(Sorry, that was not in response to OP.)

supercee · 09/05/2020 06:03

Glad a PP mentioned what her party have done to Police Scotland. It's now fucked. Completely fucked.

She's coming across well but a few well written (by someone else) speeches does not mask her many failings in other areas.

TheSandman · 09/05/2020 10:34

there are NO elected Conservatives in Scotland now. That should tell you something about the tory agenda.... But it's wasted here.

Much as I would love that to be true there are sadly some 31 Tory MSPs (Though a lot of those are there as a result of our weirdly generous electoral system) and 6 UK MPs not to mention a shedload of corrupt conservative controlled councils around the place.

MissEliza · 09/05/2020 12:57

The decision to create Police Scotland was bizarre. The administration is full of incompetence and poor decision making but they always shift the blame. Look at the ferries fiasco- nothing is ever the SNP's fault.