To ask whether you would support a further lockdown?

[lola777]

Posting here simply as I don't know if voting can be enabled outside AIBU.

Vote yes- You would support further lockdown of this extent
Vote no- You would not support a lockdown of this extent after the current lockdown period

Personally, I would be happy for restrictions to slowly be lifted after this. Amongst my friends, I feel I am in the majority.

This thread makes me wonder how us Brits ever got through the great depression, the Soanish flu, 2 major world wars, the blitz, the plague etc

I know. Only been a few weeks as well. Friends, family and dating partners can all be kept in touch with via a wide range of options without endangering anyone.

Yes I would

so is everyone happy for their dc to go back to school then if its gone on too long

I'd have my children camping on the doorstep in advance of the doors actually opening.

malificent

Totally agree, it's ridiculous and quite scary how privileged we are yet how bloody useless when it comes to coping with change.
You'd think these professional people wanting schools to open for their childcare would know a little about change management.

Yes, I would support a continuing lockdown. We haven't had long enough to affect the curve significantly.
The 20,000 plus people that have died in the UK are only the ones in hospital. The estimates are that the same number again are dying in care homes and their own homes.
Herd immunity sounds like let the weak die to me, and we don't know if having the bloody thing confers immunity anyway.
We don't know if any vaccine that may be used in the future will confer immunity.
We haven't yet developed drugs to treat it and it is very contagious, more so than 'flu.
Whenever lockdown is relaxed, we will see the numbers of infections and deaths on the rise again, as is happening in South Korea. Including relapse cases.
We haven't any weapons in our armoury. Yet.
No immunity, no drugs, no vaccines. The only things we have at the moment are lockdown, isolation and barrier nursing.
I am vulnerable and I don't think I’m coming out of my bubble just yet. I want to live.

We mostly got through those things because we were able to have real, human contact with other people, and particularly with the people we love.

How many of us have told our children to come off their screens and do something with their friends in real life? Now we're telling them that screens are the only 'safe' way to interact with their friends.

What astounds me is that my teenagers are so compliant. Though maybe they wouldn't be if they weren't now completely operating in a virtual world.

hoxtonbabe

So sorry.

We do need more people to catch it and die though, as we are nowhere near the gov aim of 80% contracting the virus.
Perhaps the option and those wanting to go back can be the next wave in ICU, it's a shame for their kids though.
Must be awful for them to know their parents would rather be dead than stay at home with them.
I wonder what they'll be thinking the first gineau pigs through the doors.

Can't vote because I can't work out if YABU is yes or no
But yep. Supportive. Maybe not in exactly the same form, but no way should we go back to 'normal' any time soon.
NHS worker if it's relevant.

Must be awful for them to know their parents would rather be dead than stay at home with them.

Instead of acting like the most offensive arsehole on MN, perhaps answer some of the questions put to you about how these families are supposed to ‘adapt’ to no income and not being able to pay their mortgage.

I would be most interested in your view.

@MargotB7

Thank you. She died 4 weeks ago and we have a date for 3 weeks time for her funeral, as the cemetery’s, undertakers etc are so busy. The organisation of it all is more stressful than anything else but it is what it’s is I guess

I support stopping people dying if that means keeping us locked down then I’d support it

What about those dying from cancer because they're not being tested or getting treatment? Or those dying because they're too frightened to call an ambulance or go to A&E?

LaurieMarlow

When would you like to come out of lockdown?

Have you got your own business? Tell me to mind my own I you want to.

I think we will have another 3 weeks at least after this.

Whatever is the best to save lives gets my vote. We are personally are having a great time, spending quality time as a family - first time ever my husband has had time off without a booked holiday or a specific reason, he works soooooo hard and long long hours and it’s been lovely for him to just relax....he struggles with high blood pressure and it’s now well within normal numbers and without work stress he’s managed to lose weight too. The weather has been lovely, our garden is looking great.....I just hope nobody filmed me playing hopscotch on our patio today as I suspect I was less than graceful 😂🙈. Job wise, its obviously a worry but people’s lives are more important.

We do need more people to catch it and die though, as we are nowhere near the gov aim of 80% contracting the virus.

Until we know whether those who have had it get any immunity then this plan is completely pointless.

Just means a lot of dead people, for no reason.

@Kasabian23 Absolutely. Lockdown for however long it takes for us to make a vaccine that will immunise the entire population.

What's your idea for if they don't find a vaccine? Live like this forever?

I would obviously comply with a further lockdown but vaccine or no vaccine it can't go on forever.

But I do think we need rotas for things like going to the park with priority given to those who don't have gardens, befriending schemes, a way forward for chemo, a programme for welfare checks, easier access to benefits and a bubble option for single parents who are struggling

These are all eminently sensible. Maybe parks should be "reserved" for those without gardens; the council here already has a programme mfor welfare checks for the most vulnerable groups; there has been massive redeployment of DWP staff to work on UC, so things there should be improving; the "bubble" option is a great idea. And we really need to find a way of getting people who need urgent non-Covid medical treatment treated.

But I think that ending lockdown, or significantly relaxing it, will put more nurses, doctors and HCAs at risk. We can't afford to lose HCPs, not until this virus is much more under control. It doesn't matter whether that's because of herd immunity, vaccination or it spontaneously mutating into something less serious, we have a duty of care to those who care for us, to minimise the risk.

Well, I had on my local FB feed, a rather terrible story of a single parent committing suicide, because she could not deal with lockdown and everyone's jolly holiday happy camper SM messages and the contrast between how she was dealing and what they were experiencing.

I don't know if this was genuine. It sounded it.

But it was a rather chilly wake-up call to me about how some people are truly, horrifically, suffering under lockdown.

It's all very easy for me to say, absolutely, continue lockdown, best be safe, not sorry, we're all in this together, blah, blah, blah. Other peoples' experience is a sight different.

(And also, perhaps be mindful of balancing the #soblessed moments on your FB or other SM feed?)

Ease lockdown but keep social distancing. Have any of you suggesting that been in a school recently - primary or secondary

@thea543

I think we are all extraordinarily grateful for what your daughter is doing.

But it’s not that simple.

Perhaps you would like to join my DH is one of his clinics telling parents of children with cancer that their treatment is being suspended, and may affect their chances of survival, before dismissing lockdown as it being “not much fun staying at home”. Covid is awful, but some of the consequences of lockdown are horrendous too, so we need a balanced conversation.

Laurie

The same way that humans have had to adapt for millenia. Having less, living cheaper, it's amazing what you can do when you put your mind to it.
Don't have a big mortgage you can't afford on one wage for a start. There's always a risk of redundancy even without the virus.
Use less fuel, or water if on a metre, move to somewhere cheaper. Eat less, don't spend money you haven't got, reduce subscriptions, sell stuff, only have one car per household, or get a bike.
It's a waste of time sitting there saying we can't cope, you'll end up going under. You need to ask what you can/will have to do to survive.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat it will go on for as long as it needs to. We need a vaccine, without it this disease will circulate between the population again and again. How many times do you think you could get away with surviving COVID-19 if you were to catch it every single year?

We all have to accept that until brave scientists find a way to inoculate us, we are going to have to stay in some form of pseudo lockdown otherwise it will be Spanish Flu numbers EVERY...SINGLE...YEAR.

Kasabian23 is clearly unhinged, don't give them any ammunition.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

I was thinking about this thr other day. I do think the gov need to come up with some way pretty soon, of people still getting tested etc for these things as we can’t stop all treatments and testing indefinitely.

About a week ago I had an incident with a chicken bone and after it felt like I had it lodged in my throat, I was going back and forth as to going into A&E but I took it as I can breathe so will call GP the next day but that didn’t stop me from shitting myself thinking my throat my swell up overnight etc so I didn’t sleep, thankfully my GP reassured me it was Globus and more or less back to normal now. My latest concern is my breast is feeling very odd and under normal circumstances I would just go into GP, but I’m sitting here thinking now what do I do, it’s as if all other life threatening illnesses have had to take a back seat and if corona doesn’t get you the other illnesses/diseases will, and that has actually been playing on my mind somewhat as it’s a really sad situation.

@RoosterPie

Oh dear, thought hospitals were still treating patients, I know they aren’t testing but those already diagnosed I thought were able to continue. My friend works in a cancer unit and she still goes to work as they are still seeing patients.. I wonder if it’s because of the particular hospital she works at?

anyone who thinks the government is going to keep us on full lockdown until there is a vaccine is living in cloud cuckoo land.

Some social distancing, yes, but a full on lockdown? No.