To ask whether you would support a further lockdown?

[lola777]

Posting here simply as I don't know if voting can be enabled outside AIBU.

Vote yes- You would support further lockdown of this extent
Vote no- You would not support a lockdown of this extent after the current lockdown period

Personally, I would be happy for restrictions to slowly be lifted after this. Amongst my friends, I feel I am in the majority.

I’m sorry but this is a ridiculous question.
If we have to lockdown cos the science or the law says so then we do it; am hardly going to be ignoring that.

I think a lockdown would be good, this non lockdown is ridiculous and not changing much.
it can't continue if there's nobody to spread the virus, which we wouldn't be doing if in lockdown.

Not a ridiculous question at all.

But worrying that someone could be so 'brainwashed' that they think it is.

we can pick up the financial pieces later.

🤣🤣🤣. Brilliant.

it can't continue if there's nobody to spread the virus

Do people really believe that the virus is just going to disappear while we're Lockdown?

Of course it isn't. The only way it will stop is if we are able to develop herd immunity, which can only happen if we all get out there and get infected.

so is everyone happy for their dc to go back to school then if its gone on too long

because all ive read for the past few weeks is im not risking my children they wont be going back till weve got a vaccine

I support stopping people dying if that means keeping us locked down then I’d support it

You do know that people die of things other than Covid, @EC22 ?

I have given up the new age mysticism a long time ago but even so, a part of me can't help but feel this pandemic is nature's way of reminding us in the west that we have been consuming the world's resources at an alarming rate

I've never been at all new-agey or mystically minded, but I did read about the Gaia hypothesis many years ago. I just thought it was a bit bonkers at the time, but I can see how, to a Gaian, this looks like the planet fighting back.

so is everyone happy for their dc to go back to school then if its gone on too long

Oh christ yes, mine would be back tomorrow if they'd have him!!!

so is everyone happy for their dc to go back to school then if its gone on too long

absolutely. I have to provide for them.

I've literally just found out that someone I work with has Covid.

The only reason you would not support further measures is because it hasn't touched you.

We need at least another month.

It’s a complete joke, not justified in the first place. Hopefully there will be a judicial review do the government’s failure to lock down in the first place. For every life ‘saved’ the prediction is three further lost through poverty, domestic abuse, suicide, late diagnosis of conditions which would have had a better prognosis if diagnosed earlier.

Can’t read all 33 pages but I have a few observations to make.
The NHS is coping because of lockdown. If lockdown is eased too quickly or too soon it won’t cope at all.
Also I don’t see how schools can open. You cannot follow social distancing in schools, hand washing will be a huge problem, think 400+ pupils and 18 sinks. Also ratios of adults to pupils to operate safely, as in a staff member gets sick off for 2 weeks, who covers the class, plus those staff who are shielded? Will staff be given PPE or does their safety not matter? The logistics of opening schools will be very tricky, drop off and pick up, breakfast clubs and after school clubs? People who rely on elderly relatives to provide wrap around care but can’t due to risks. Unless those issues are met how do schools open? If schools can’t open safely how do parents go back to work?
I think there are still too many questions to be answered to make a decision on it. I would support a lockdown if needed and would support an ease of lockdown if it can be done safely.
Japan has seen a huge spike in cases and it looks like it might be worse then first wave. I don’t want to risk need for a longer stricter lockdown if we move too quickly, the consequences of that will be much worse then a few more weeks this time.

It seems very likely that we will have a vaccine. Our scientists are pretty confident.

I think people who get ill now have a much worse chance than folk who will get ill in a while. With each week that goes by, doctors and researchers are working feverishly to work out treatment protocols. We're in the dark ages with it now. In six months we probably won't be.

We can't consider allowing another surge until PPE is sorted out and an effective plan in place for care homes to be more effectively shielded. We cannot let the massacres in Italian care homes be repeated here and quite honestly I don't think a bit of low mood justifies it. There is a mental health crisis and there is low mood. Low mood is a reasonable response to the current circumstances and we need to offer support and education. But it's not a good reason to let people die. Those in mental health crisis will probably still be in crisis when the death toll climbs because it will and it will touch more lives and cause more fear.

I don't think there are any easy answers except this: we certainly can't come out of lockdown unprepared and we're not prepared.

But I do think we need rotas for things like going to the park with priority given to those who don't have gardens, befriending schemes, a way forward for chemo, a programme for welfare checks, easier access to benefits and a bubble option for single parents who are struggling.

This thread makes me wonder how us Brits ever got through the great depression, the Soanish flu, 2 major world wars, the blitz, the plague etc.
We are quite spoilt nowadays.

Not much fun being stuck at home is it? Perhaps you would like to join my daughter on her ICU ward. 12 hour shift wearing unbearably hot and stuffy PPE. Not able to go for a drink anything to eat or even a wee for 4 hours at a time all the time becoming more and more dehydrated. She comes home with the marks of the mask on her face other staff have ulcers on their noses from the masks.

*The only reason you would not support further measures is because it hasn't touched you.

Equally, those advocating long lock down periods are having a privileged experience of lockdown compared to others (i.e. with their loved ones, no threats to income, no mental health issues, no further complicating factors like DV, SEN)

Spanish

Very sensitive period....we are weeks behind Italy, France and Spain so don't expect us to be the first to make any significant change.

@FelicisNox I know two people who have died of it, I still wouldn't support a further lockdown.

We are quite spoilt nowadays.

I don’t personally think it’s ‘spoilt’ to be worried sick about how you’re going to provide for your children. Perhaps that’s just me

Well we wouldn't be having one just for fun now would we? It would be because the rate of increase in infections requiring treatment was forecast to exceed the capacity of the NHS.
So if you'd be against another period of lockdown at a later date, then you're saying effectively you be happy to turn up at hospital with yourself or a family member needing treatment due to the virus and being turned away because they are full. Try again tomorrow - if you can

I would support more lockdown if it was needed, it would be hard though. But I think this lockdown should have been much stricter, if you look at lockdown in Spain and China we got off very lightly

@felicisNox

I totally agree with what you say. On my local community site they are all moaning about those of us raising our concerns about the streets suddenly being like a regular weekend etc, and they don’t see what the problem is blah blah blah, but I also noticed everyone against further restrictions etc had not actually been effected in any way, shape or form so I think they just see it as some mythical illness that has nothing to do with them.

I’m at the other end of the scale where I don’t think enough is being done but then that’s because I’ve actually had CV my sons had it and my mum died from it.

I have had a close friend die from Coronavirus, she died two weeks ago she wasn’t old nor did she have underlying health conditions she leaves behind young children her youngest is eight years old.

I’ve got friends and acquaintances who have had Coronavirus and thankfully survived.

I’ve had to send my condolences to so so many friends over the last five weeks that I don’t even have the words anymore.

So yes I would support the lockdown to continue for longer.

I can understand and deeply sympathise with those who are afraid of losing their jobs and have mental health issues and are suffering due to the lockdown.

I think those who are having a hard time coping with the lockdown need to be heard and some plan put in place for them to help them.

But I don’t want the lockdown to end only for us to be hit worse and end up having to do it all over again for longer. With many more lives lost.

I’ve watched people being utterly vile because they feel this lockdown is unnecessary, but as a previous poster said, I reckon it’s only because they’ve not yet been affected by the virus.

I’m pretty sure when this pandemic is over most of us will know someone who had it.