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To genuinely wonder what is going to happen to the US?

311 replies

AlternativePerspective · 24/04/2020 08:25

Weirdly the story has now disappeared from the BBC since I saw it this morning, but basically. Donald Trump is suggesting UV treatment and injecting disinfectant as a means to kill COVID.

Obviously most know he’s a lunatic, but enough support him to keep him in power, and people will take this advice seriously and will surely inevitably die as a result.

Thing is, there seems no way to stop him. if he gets back into power, which he undoubtedly will, then they have another four years of this, in which case the stability of the country is in serious danger.

But if he doesn’t get in I predict serious unrest and even wonder whether the states could end up in civil war.

Either way it’s not a place I would want to be going right now.

It’s obviously easy to laugh at trump from the sidelines, but people are having to live under this....

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PlanDeRaccordement · 24/04/2020 09:00

Well the man knows how to buy votes. And the democrats have settled on Joe Biden who is no better. They wasted all that time and money on an impeachment that was doomed to fail (and did fail) when they should have been working on a better candidate to run against Trump. So I think Trump will go another four years.

SignGrudgeBluebook · 24/04/2020 09:04

He's the most terrifying man on the planet

This. In spades. He is a post turtle. I can't look at him without wondering how, why, what....... In fact I can't look at him at all.

isabellerossignol · 24/04/2020 09:04

To be fair, he wasn’t telling people to do this, just asking the question of the expert, who quickly rebutted it.

I think the problem is that many of his supporters accept his 'widsom' over those of experts who actually know what they're talking about. And he's always boasting about that, so he shouldn't be taking chances with people's safety by making statements like this.

JudyCoolibar · 24/04/2020 09:04

Trump simply cannot cope with an opponent - namely Covid19 - that he can't attack by giving it stupid names or accusing it of fake news. Is there no procedure in the US for a President who is clearly in the throes of dementia to be removed?

JudyCoolibar · 24/04/2020 09:05

To be fair, he wasn’t telling people to do this, just asking the question of the expert, who quickly rebutted it.

But why ask the question when the answer is so obvious? He might just as well have spent the press conference asking an expert whether one plus one makes two.

GreenTulips · 24/04/2020 09:05

To be fair, he wasn’t telling people to do this, just asking the question of the expert, who quickly rebutted it

Why would anyone over 5 even be asking this question? It was complete madness.

He also suggested as the sun kills the virus quicker, that they would look into light therapy. When the pot expert clearly said surfaces and not people. He asked the poor man to look into it when it’s not his area.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 24/04/2020 09:07

Is there no procedure in the US for a President who is clearly in the throes of dementia to be removed?

25th Amendment.

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

I can see it happening only if he loses the election and then won't behave in the handover.

jasjas1973 · 24/04/2020 09:08

It’s one thing to come up with a stupid idea like that in a closed meeting and then be rebutted by experts...

NO! It really isn't.

The world needs leaders with a brain, not idiots thinking injecting bleach is any sort of idea or shaking hands of patients with a serious infectious illness is to be recommended.

We in the UK have our own version of Trump, with equally vociferous supporters.

Babdoc · 24/04/2020 09:09

The really terrifying thought is that Trump has control of the nuclear button.
Please God, nobody tell him that radiation kills viruses...

chomalungma · 24/04/2020 09:10

He suggested it in the briefing. His supporters will have heard that. Will they have heard the advice from the experts not to drink disinfectant

I note Fox news isn't mentioning what he said at all.

Twitter definitely is

www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-coronavirus-sunlight-heat-and-humidity

rainbowstardrops · 24/04/2020 09:12

Whenever I see him talking on tv, I sit and wonder if I'm dreaming because he is just so utterly ridiculous! I think I'm going to wake up and realise it was a hilarious dream ....... except it isn't Confused

Cabinfever10 · 24/04/2020 09:12

He is so stupid that it's scary

chomalungma · 24/04/2020 09:14

I do wonder how he is going to deny that he suggested this to people?

I wonder how many people it needs to say WTF to think this person is unsuitable to be President.

PlanDeRaccordement · 24/04/2020 09:14

“The really terrifying thought is that Trump has control of the nuclear button.“

But he does not have control of the nuclear button. The joint chiefs of staff do. And he can’t fire them.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 24/04/2020 09:14

Thankfully, there is no "Button"

The order to use nukes is given by the military chiefs. As Commander-in-Chief, he can order them to give the order, but mindful of the Nuremburg Precedent, they will be entitled to disobey an illegal order.

isabellerossignol · 24/04/2020 09:15

Do you remember 15 years ago when we used to laugh at George W Bush and think he wasn't very bright etc? Perfect illustration of how you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.

AlternativePerspective · 24/04/2020 09:16

I don’t think he has dementia. I think he’s a sociopath who will stop at nothing to get what he wants.

Even if he did have dementia it doesn’t excuse the horrible person he has been his whole life.

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BubblesBuddy · 24/04/2020 09:18

Perhaps news outlets there are so concerned about this suggestion they think it’s unsafe to broadcast it? The Americans don’t always get the best people to be presidents due to their system which is over reliant on funds from supporters, advertising etc. Trump was also the master of the 3 word slogan - lock her up, build the wall etc just like Brexit - get Brexit done etc. People aren’t the brightest are they?

PineappleDanish · 24/04/2020 09:19

He's not very bright. Poorly educated and doesn't have much experience in anything other than running Dad's business, badly.

He's too arrogant to realise that actually he doesn't know it all and defer to his experts. As my granny used to say, he opens his mouth and lets his belly rumble.

ShagMeRiggins · 24/04/2020 09:24

Some people have already died after accidentally over dosing on another drug he ‘suggested’ several weeks ago.

Who? What drug was that then? I don’t remember this in the news.

Rottnest · 24/04/2020 09:25

I absolutely agree with Isabeller, the thought of this deranged man gaining another four years in power is awful to say the least. He is a compulsive liar, unable to empathise with other human beings who uses the vocabulary of a not very intelligent adolescent.

If his followers act on his advice, at least they will be no loss to the planet. And, I do realise this is an awful thing to say.

I just cannot think of a single positive quality he brings to the office of the presidency.
God help America!

CatBatCat · 24/04/2020 09:26

Oh well, They'll be plenty of Darwin awards won by the time this is over.

chomalungma · 24/04/2020 09:28

*Who? What drug was that then? I don’t remember this in the news(

Hydroxychloroquinine

An anti-malarial drug he was very keen on for a while and kept touting it because he had 'hope' in it and what have you got to lose.

Turns out for someone, it was their life.

Rottnest · 24/04/2020 09:29

@Shagmeriggins, The drug he promoted was Hydroxychloroquine, an anti malarial with side effects.

One of his 'followers' took the drug, I think a animal dose ,and died.

As Trump said, he is not a doctor!

Waiohwai · 24/04/2020 09:30

He's supposed to be President not some drunk in a bar making random comments.

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2905087282903486&id=100002067289454&extid=HcJkkDhGpz0gIuFr&d=null&vh=i

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