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To post a letter back?

197 replies

Claplikeaseal · 24/04/2020 01:25

Sorry, it's another clapping thread.🙄

So every Thursday some of my neighbours go out clapping, banging saucepans etc. Which is good for them. However, my DD is 2 and I suspect has some sensory issues because loud noises of any kind distresses her.

She's usually in bed but of course when the noise starts it scares her, she covers her ears and cries. So, naturally, I don't go outside to clap and comfort her. I probably wouldn't anyway, simply because I feel there are many other better ways to support the NHS which I do make an effort to do.

Last night I received a letter about how the "community" had noticed we hadn't been clapping and they were upset we were letting the "community" down and they hope we make an effort next time 🤨. There was more, it was nearly a full page letter but that's the gist.

I know who posted it, my partner opened the door. WIBU to post a letter back? Basically telling them to fuck themselves but in a way in which will make them think twice next time? I now feel uncomfortable and like all the neighbours are gossiping, but then I don't feel I should have to defend my actions as it should be my choice regardless of my reasons.

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Sunshineandflipflops · 24/04/2020 12:22

You can bet a lot of these virtue clappers voted Tory anyway and couldn't give a crap about the NHS usually. My (Tory) neighbours do it every week and it really winds me up.

Clap or don't clap, it's your choice and you shouldn't have to justify it to anyone else.

lachy · 24/04/2020 12:23

Post back...

Dear chief clap co-ordinator.

  1. It is not compulsory to clap
  2. My child finds the noise and disruption to her routine distressing
  3. I find it incomprehensible that you have taken it upon yourself to berate me.
  4. You should have considered the above before taking it upon yourself to express your "disappointment" in me.

The content of your letter patronising and I request that you refrain from contacting me again.

and then pour weedkiller on their lawn

1forsorrow · 24/04/2020 12:23

I wish the media would stop the promoting of this. At least they should point out that people don't have to do it and "shaming" people is not on. I have written to my MP and asked him to look at it, gave him a copy of the Westminster bridge gathering and suggested this has got out of hand. Any ideas of how to get the press/tv to take this up. People don't need this level of nastiness from people who think they are so lovely and caring.

Whynotnowbaby · 24/04/2020 12:26

Unbelievable, I like the options that make it clear to others too what twatty neighbour has done. Perhaps a post on the community Facebook page expressing how unhappy you are with the harassment and your concerns that people think this sort of stasi behaviour is appropriate.

MamaGee09 · 24/04/2020 12:29

If it were me I wouldnt reply. I’d bide my time and see if she sends another then I’d do what @roundturnandtwohalfhitches said and go round all the neighbours leaving her to last. Her curtains would be twitching!

We do it, it’s not compulsory and no one should be made to feel they need to.

JustVisiting9 · 24/04/2020 12:30

Did they sign the note? If it was anonymous then that tells you all you need to know about said neighbour.

Whilst there is some debate about the need to disinfect letters, I would suggest that posting unnecessary rubbish through other peoples' letter boxes is not helpful at the current time.

I think the clapping was nice as a one-off, but I don't think we need it each week. But at least we are not in Spain where I believe they do it on a nightly basis at 10pm!

I'm not sure how a respectful round of applause has turned into a competition to see who can make the most noise. We had pots and pans, drums, a firework and of course that set all the dogs barking.

There was also a Facebook post complaining about someone who was disrespectful enough to drive through the village during the clap. Said driver was tracked down, and the post was swiftly deleted when it was discovered that he was a doctor going to the hospital.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 24/04/2020 12:30

Ive clapped once, i’ll probably do it again

But if i got a sodding letter between now and clapping time? Would i clap?

Would i fuck 😀

Allergictoironing · 24/04/2020 12:31

I wonder just how many of the more evangelical clappers are people who before Covid would:

complain about not getting a convenient GP appointment,
complain about waiting times in A&E,
complain they weren't treated like royalty if they need to have any procedures in hospital
whinge at NHS staff who don't respond to them immediately
whinge about doctor's receptionists being "jumped up"

I don't go outside to clap, but I do tell any key workers I have contact with that I appreciate them. But then again that's no different to any time pre-Covid for me - I always tell NHS staff they are appreciated, I always say thank you for anything they've done for me, I always tell them they are valued.

acatcalledjohn · 24/04/2020 12:34

This does not require explaining. A simple "fuck off you sanctimonious thundercunt, you have no idea what goes on behind closed doors" will suffice.

Surprised at the number of people who still think this should be pointed out politely to twatty neighbour.

CatteStreet · 24/04/2020 12:40

What was the line in Malory Towers? Anonymous letter-writers are the lowest of the low.

Nasty, cowardly person/people, drunk on their own self-importance. Definitely not worth dignifying with a response.

Claplikeaseal · 24/04/2020 12:40

My partner asked what the letter was about and she said "we think it's disrespectful" and that her daughter had written it🤷. He just said well i have a screaming baby upstairs and shut the door before he lost his temper and said something he shouldn't.

Unfortunately, I'm not on Facebook.

And I have tried to get my toddler to be more relaxed around noise, but unfortunately it's not that simple. I've even tried a toddler disco, which she was very excited about and we built it up over a number of days, but as soon as the noise started she clamped her hands over he ears and we had to leave due to her distress. I've only recently been able to vacuum without someone else present to soothe her.

Thank you everyone for your comments though and I'm glad not everyone has the same views as my so called "community" 😁

Also, I spoke to lovely neighbour who also didn't clap, but she never received a letter. So, I'm not sure why they chose to direct the disappointment towards me.

I think this time I will just ignore, but if they do it again next time I might take some of your ideas and post a letter through a few people's letterboxes, rather than just the person I know is the instigator and stick to the wording you've all used.

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44PumpLane · 24/04/2020 12:44

I do think just ignore, but arrange a glitter bomb to be mailed to her house is a classy approach :)

newnamenumber7 · 24/04/2020 12:46

Nadine Shah's new single might help, OP? :)

3rdNamechange · 24/04/2020 12:47

@Allergictoironing all of them I expect.

Bargainhuntbore · 24/04/2020 12:53

Id not write a letter, instead get of Facebook and tell the whole world what fuckwits are in your community. I dont clap - I CBA then do live away from the village.

Krong · 24/04/2020 12:57

I would stick a big sign on your house for next time:

"Dear community,

My child has sensory issues and is is greatly affected by the noise. Please be more community minded and keep noise to a minimum"

nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut · 24/04/2020 12:59

Dear X.

Thank you for your letter. Although I do appreciate the NHS and think they are amazing, I will not be joining you. My small daughter is autistic and is frightened by loud noise and at 8pm on Thursday I am sitting comforting my terrified child, rather than standing outside with the self centred, ignorant cunts that I am ashamed to call my neighbours. Please show some consideration for others and although I know it is a difficult concept for you, think before writing down your vile, uncharitable thoughts and making it known to others exactly how lacking you are in intelligence and empathy.

I politely request that you take your saucepan lids, shove them up your arse and fuck yourself with vigour.

Regards
OP

STAYTHEFUCKHOME · 24/04/2020 13:02

I would try and photocopy the letter, and shrink it, so you can annotate and post it to every neighbour.

“Dear number 17 and community. Thank you for this note, sent to me by #17 on behalf of you all.

Not all illnesses and ailments are visible - the clapping and banging causes my daughter great distress, so whilst I would love to be out feeling part of a ‘community’, instead I am inside caring for my daughter during this regular occasion.

Thanks for making me feel like a shit human being. It’s exactly what is needed during this tough time.

Clap.
#18”

Put it all back on the neighbour publicly. Send to all the neighbours so they can see what she is saying on their behalf. Watch them squirm.

snappedandfarted123 · 24/04/2020 13:03

Wait until they're in the garden and then go out with DH and have a loud and hilarious conversation about the "batty neighbour" and her "bonkers letter" and how funny it is that she thinks she's the voice of the street when everyone thinks she's a total hyacinth bucket. As if you have no idea she's there on the other side of the fence listening in. She wants you to feel uncomfortable so laughing at her will totally puncture her sense of superiority and give her the rage :D

hesgotit · 24/04/2020 13:03

@STAYTHEFUCKHOME that's bloody brilliant! OP do that!

Claplikeaseal · 24/04/2020 13:04

GrinGrin Nadine Shah's single is very fitting, might just get Alexa outside for a sing song Wink

As much as I'd love to just tell them to fuck themselves, I know I could never, so silence is my best bet Grin

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Tighnabruaich · 24/04/2020 13:05

Nobody in my village (not the one as in my user name) does it at all.

FinallyHere · 24/04/2020 13:12

I'm so sorry you have had that sort of reaction from your neighbours. I would encourage you to ignore them, focus on your child.

The feeling that first night that we clapped was lovely, especially noticing that everyone (except the consultant ) had turned out. The second time I enjoyed it less, as one neighbour who lives a little further away came out onto the close to 'see who wasn't showing up' given its is the least we can do'.

Then the story about the deaths and missing PPE surfaced, with government ministers claiming that NHS staff were using PPE 'recklessly'. I have been too ashamed of what we have come to, to join in ever since

To post a letter back?
GoofyLuce · 24/04/2020 13:22

Is it just me or do nosy neighbour threads remind you of Christmas with the Kranks Grin

MamaV2020 · 24/04/2020 13:35

I would feel exactly the same, as much as I'd like to take the high road and ignore them, I'd also feel like marching round there and making them feel bad. I do personally go out every week and clap and actually find it really encouraging that people can come together in support of something so don't think it's pointless, but at the same time, do completely understand why some people choose not too, for whatever reason, and I would never judge someone else for not doing it! That's ridiculous, judgy, rude and just plain ignorant. If they're the kind of people to write a letter in the first place, they're probably idiots and unfortunately idiots can never be wrong in their eyes, so as much as I would love to put them in their place, it probably wouldn't do any good 😕 however, if they continue to pester you, then I would definitely write a strongly worded letter! Although I'd probably make it sound more sarcastic than angry as that will definitely aggravate them 👍

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