NHS staff dancing..

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I couldn't see another tread on this. But if there is, please link it.

What's your opinion on this? AIBU to think this is in very bad taste?

@Nicknacky my brother is a firefighter and the things he's seen breaks his heart.. From finding dead mothers crouched over their children to protect them from smoke to pulling dead children out of car accidents. Life of firemen can be stressful at all times they never know what their next call will be. I don't know if they dance or not but it wouldn't be in the same place the dead and dying are that's for sure. I've looked back and read your post and I agree with you

I’ve said none of those things. It’s just pure and simply unprofessional, lacks tack and empathy and is giving the impression that there is loads of spare time and staff within the hospitals.

BovaryX
I dislike the pot bashing every week.

Health staff sharing something positive doesn't reduce my personal responsibility for my own health.

I've had to go into hospital with DC since lockdown. I didn't sit at home with a poorly child and ignore them being unwell in case some pot basher tutted at me.

There's many valid questions to ask about allocation of services and those in charge should be held to account for their actions. Bitching about some nice videos and suggesting they're causing people to die isn't doing that though. It's ideological vitriol.

Tonz I’m also an emergency service worker. I will no doubt be at at least one sudden death over the weekend. I might just do a tik tok while I’m waiting for the photographer or undertaker to relive the stress of what I’m looking at.

That’s ok, right?

Oh I’m agreeing with you if that isn’t obvious!

People need to stay home to protect the NHS

A health care system that demands people who are critically ill stay at home to 'protect' the health care system? Dr. Pickering said that it has 'gone too far' and people who urgently need medical care are not seeking it. This twisted reversal of a successful health care system is on display for everyone to see. Dancing nurses. Pot bangers. And people determined to 'protect the NHS' by not troubling it when they are critically ill.

When did you appoint yourself the arbiter of the appropriate level of NHS opprobrium @Alsohuman ?

It’s an opinion. I’m as entitled to it as you are to yours. An opinion I manage to express without insulting or attacking other people.

Having a different opinion on the videos is one thing, deciding that staff are obviously ignoring patients, not doing their jobs, must be doing this when on shift and not on their breaks, they're causing people to die etc is the sort of ridiculous vitriol that's only spouted by people looking to spread misery and stick the boot in

Please, show me on this thread where anyone has said that the NHS staff dancing is causing people to die.

No one has said they are creating the videos on their shifts and not on their breaks, because no one knows either way, do they, but the videos are certainly giving the impression that the staff do have quite a bit of free time to be creating them.

That is why there are such strict social media policies within employee contracts. To prevent this type of backlash.

It doesn’t matter if the videos were created on breaks, after hours etc, it is the impression they are giving.

@LolaSmiles

bitching about some nice videos

Which part of people are dying because they are not seeking medical care do you not understand? Which part of an A&E doctor from Stoke is describing a surreal situation with a drastic reduction in patients don't you understand? Dr. Pickering publicly asked sick patients to visit the hospital. Do you understand the seriousness of the situation when an A&E medic is requesting patients? Your failure to grasp why dancing nurses is a symptom of this evolving catastrophe is laughable.

Littlebluetruck
I replied to someone saying they doubt it was done on their breaks.

I think there needs to be a separation of challenging and questioning operational decisions and mindless complaining that someone did something nice and fun.

@Nicknacky could u imagine the uproar if u did. No you have to stay professional in your uniform. I get what u mean.
Dancing nurse videos just make me want to say fuck it and go see my mum

Which part of people are dying because they are not seeking medical care do you not understand? Which part of an A&E doctor from Stoke is describing a surreal situation with a drastic reduction in patients don't you understand? Dr. Pickering publicly asked sick patients to visit the hospital. Do you understand the seriousness of the situation when an A&E medic is requesting patients?
How utterly patronising.
Surely if someone needs to go to A&E they need to go.
As I said, my DC was poorly. I didn't sit at home in case some pot basher tutted. We went to hospital where we were seen and looked after.
I totally agree with him telling people if they have to go to A&E to go to A&E. That's common sense.

Your failure to grasp why dancing nurses is a symptom of this evolving catastrophe is laughable.
What's laughable is people such as yourself refusing to separate challenging operational decisions from some videos done by health staff to spread a little cheer.

Surely if someone needs to go to A&E they need to go

They are not going. Maybe because of the repeated chanting of Protect the NHS instead of the NHS protects its patients. This perverse reversal is on explicit display in your posts.

You do know Protect the NHS is the government’s slogan? That’s why it’s on the podium at the press briefings. But, no, it must be the fault of the NHS.

It is absolutely the fault of the government. They are ultimately responsible for this fiasco.

Thank you. I was giving up hope we’d ever get there.

Yes protect the NHS came from the government. The measures taken to protect the NHS came from the government. The videos of prancing nurses in PPE gear on social media in hospitals full of dying people came from...... The nurses

You missed the next bit:

^If so, ministers need to take action urgently. They should stop saying 'Protect the NHS'. If they aren't willing to do that, then they must, at the very least, make it clear every single day that very sick people can and must engage with the health service.

Protecting lives should be our overarching aim right now. And that means protecting lives from both Covid-19 and other diseases^

Public sector workers have a huge amount of influence over public perception. Which people often disregard.

A Nurse viral video tearfully saying she went to the supermarket and couldn't buy enough shopping directly contributed to supermarkets forming NHS slots and discounts.

And some ITU/COVID ward staff in hard hit areas posting similar videos about the absolute trauma they are going through contributed to public perception that the NHS was on its knees and you must stay home.

And they were valid and heartbreaking. Which is awful, but not reflective of everyone or even near everyone working in the NHS. Or every area of the UK.

The general public don't assume that though.

And then local or national businesses and members of the public respond as think 'that's the reality for all the NHS' dropping off vast free supplies of food or other supplies to staff in hospitals which are often not needed or wanted and the staff could afford to pay for anyway.

Which are going to waste and/or you have some NHS staff reporting near empty wards, massively reduced workload but loads of free pizzas, nandos, krispy cremes and Easter Eggs etc to eat.

So when people see NHS staff have time for dance routines on empty wards wearing PPE they were told they didn't have, it isn't a massive stretch to realise that a lot of the public don't realise that isn't a representation of the NHS as a whole and wonder if they were conned into thinking the NHS was having a hard time in the first place.

So then they start to relax the restrictions they put in place on advisement because the NHS is just fine and they don't need to 'protect the NHS' anymore. And they call for a stop to lockdown because they were told to adhere to 'protect the NHS' and it's worked.

What public sector workers do and publiscise matters.

I thought I’d made my point quite clearly with the highlight. The article which is dated 22 April not today, puts the onus on ministers, ie the government, to act. Not the NHS.

BovaryX

A health care system that demands people who are critically ill stay at home to 'protect' the health care system?

But this was never said or implied.

It has been down to the poor instructions given by the government that this has occurred.