NHS staff dancing..

[Whitefeather01]

I couldn't see another tread on this. But if there is, please link it.

What's your opinion on this? AIBU to think this is in very bad taste?

Jesus Christ, it’s probably helping to boost their morale during the current appalling circumstances.

What a joke! Just leave them alone. With what they are dealing with why can’t they have some time to just create some laughter. There mustn’t be much

not so good for patients who have been abandoned by the NHS though

What @Elsiebear90 said.

I think a lot of these videos were made during the week of hospital bosses deciding to pretty much cancel everything, leaving a lot of staff with not much to do. More patients than staff one week in my hospital.

We also have breaks during the day you know. Shocking I know.

I haven't made any videos though.

Surely it's also a waste of PPE?

Don't care. Not my idea of a good time, but not something I can be arsed to even have an opinion on others doing.

*staff than patients!

But the staff aren't the ones who decide to cancel appointments and stop treatments - and some treatments have been stopped for good reason. Chemotherapy for instance destroys the immune system, if someone going through chemo catches the virus they will die - they actually have a better chance of surviving the virus is chemotherapy is temporarily stopped. It is absolutely shit but there are no good choices here. If some nurses want to boost morale then I dont see anything wrong with that, they wouldn't have been leaving patients to suffer while filming it.

@Whitefeather01

No, it's not a waste of PPE, as we have to keep the same mask and eye protection on for 12 hours or how ever long our shift is.

I guess because many many people are having appointments and treatment cancelled or postponed because apparently there isn't time, enough staff etc. Yet these dances must take time to practice, film etc

Yes, they should really spend their lunch breaks and end of shifts stuffing down donated cakes and chocolate.

@Whitefeather01

Goodness, you're right... go down the hospital and tell them all how they should be spending their breaks and what they should be doing with PPE.

I mean preusmably you work in a hopistal, so you know exactly what the conditions are like - so they will obvioulsy listen to you and go "oh yes, of cours,e how silly we are... we'll stop now"

Maybe take a step away from Mumsnet for a while @00100001? Or some deep breaths...

@Whitefeather01

Maybe you should go to the cancer wards and remove the bell they ring - you know, because it's a waste of everybody's time having the patient ring the bell and the staff standing there clapping... after all, there's people dying in the same hospial...

It was on the news last night that cancer treatment has been cancelled in some places. People who were diagnosed before the lockdown now in limbo and no doubt going out of their minds with worry. I dread to think how many people will die of conditions that may well have been treatable after all this is over.

Obviously that’s not the nurses fault but you can see why some people who are scared and worried about themselves or a loved one would be offended by it. It is in poor taste and hospital trusts need to put a stop to it.

Kind of split on this. On one hand, a bit of fun in dark times is a very human and especially British trait. I always remember my nan telling me that the blitz was a terrible time, but 'lord, did we ever have fun! Sing songs, games, dancing and so on' So its great to see nurses having 5 minutes of fun to cheer themselves and others up a bit.

However (sorry to be a grump)

The 'lockdown' was sold to us as a measure to limit the strain on the NHS, and ensuring that covid cases are not exceeding capacity and ventilator availability. Whilst Drs and nurses are clearly working their socks of in dangers way, indeed far too many have died, the NHS is well within capacity; there has never before been such spare capacity. This is a good thing, displaying the nimbleness of our NHS and government when the chips are down. But when we hear this, and see several videos of Drs and nurses recording dances, sometimes in PPE that is apparently in short supply, dissenting voices against the lockdown measures will only grow.

Sorry, sore arse from fence sitting!

Myabe you should too OP.

They're just dancing.

Leave them alone.

My mother in law was taken into hospital very unwell yesterday and we still don’t know what’s wrong. We obviously can’t visit and she has phoned family to say her goodbyes as she is convinced she won’t make it.

If I watched a video of staff doing on of these dances in the hospital she was in then I wouldn’t be impressed at all.

So people wouldn’t mind if the police or fire did a dance at a fatal accident or a terrorist attack? After all, that would boost their morale.

I quite like wee tit toks but not ones with 10+ staff dancing in corridors.

Some staff from our department made a video of a tik tok dance two weeks ago because

1. They were bored as all our elective work has been cancelled so we have next to no patients

2. It boosts morale

The video really cheered everyone up as even the consultants took part which was quite surprising. I don’t see the issue at all? People aren’t ignoring dying patients to practice dances. No one in our department was dying or waiting for treatment while the dance was being filmed. Let people have a few minutes of fun FGS, it’s not causing any harm to anyone.

You do realise that many appointments have been cancelled due to risk and trying to prevent the virus spreading? It's not like removing a moment of happiness and fun for some HCP is going to magically mean appointments are running.

Heaven forbid they tried to keep their spirits up so they can provide good care. Would you be wanting your carers walking around miserably in case them smiling offends the uptight?

@Whitefeather01

How utterly miserable of you. If you’re that concerned about how people feel or what resources are available why not try and contribute in some way or do something useful with your time rather than moaning from the comfort of the sidelines about NHS staff keeping up morale.

I have a relative who died recently of suspected COVID and your post doesn’t represent my concerns or feelings in the slightest. So don’t adopt this stance of ‘it’s so insulting to those with ill relatives’.

What are you actually contributing?

Utterly miserable.

The cancer bell is rung for the patient and is a patient centred action.

Ah bollocks to anyone getting their knickers in a twist over this.

People are getting through this the best they can and personally I would like to see the people living through the brunt of it daily keep their spirits up.

Does anyone really think that people whose job it is to help sick people has just shrugged their shoulders at all of the patients who’ve had life preserving treatment cancelled or caught covid and are now fighting to recover? No they’re upset and frustrated but worse than that powerless to do anything but wait it out.

In the past month I’ve had a know someone whose had their cancer surgery cancelled, a partner who should be undergoing cardiac investigations that have been cancelled, a friend who died alone at home and a few family members who are very high risk basically breaking down on a daily basis. I would rather the people I’m relying on to help pick up the pieces afterwards aren’t all in the depths of depression themselves and have a few moments of joy.

The worst thing about this lockdown is the time moaning arses have on their hands to tell the rest of the world what they’re doing wrong.

@00100001, I dont think that's comparable, is it. If we are to use comparisons, if my house was burning down and firefighters were doing their best to put it out, stop it spreading, getting harmed in the process, would it really be ok for some firefighters on their break to start practicing the Macarena on the next street over? Probably, but I dont think I'd be impressed in the aftermath.

I personally don't care either way, but it's not difficult to see it from another perspective without jumping on anyone who may have a negative comment. Sometimes people are just being miserable, sometimes people have a point. Usually its somewhere in the middle.

The thing is, of you say "oh well, they cna't dance because people are dying"

then the hospital staff would NEVER EVER be allowed to do anything considered fin, because people are alwyas dying in hospitals...

Christmas Jumper day? no.

Cake sale? no.

Comic relief? no.

Having a joke with patients? no.

Sitting in the staff room having a luagh over something?? no.

dance to the fun tune on the radio?? goodness no.

Smile and cry because you can tell patient A that they have fully recovred from x? No. sorry someone else died you have to be serious...

IMO The dancing demonstrates a resilient and close supportive team who work / are working / will work well together in dire circumstances.

If the staff allowed the difficulties to drag them into depression, lowered eyes, fear the care would likely be a poorer experience for patients and families.