NHS staff dancing..

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I couldn't see another tread on this. But if there is, please link it.

What's your opinion on this? AIBU to think this is in very bad taste?

Germans get free health care and it's MUCH more effective. They get quick and easy access to specialists, there are far more beds, ventilators, ECMO etc etc

Pretty sure they pay more for it...........

German health care insurance usually costs at least several hundred euros per month.

You are not exempt if you are a student or on a low income.

I find it VERY distasteful. People are grieving.
Why didn't this happen in Italy or Spain? The whole thing is ugly.

And another thing the faces of those dancing and those put forward as representing the NHS?
Hardly if any, BAME
It i's the opposite when you look at the faces of staff dying.
Something is not right.

unless you are on the frontline you have no idea what we are going through each day

Errr... Dh is in the frontline, he left for the hospital at 7am this morning, I won’t see him before 9pm tonight. He wouldn’t dream of dicking around on social media, he understands the importance of public confidence and respect. He would find it hard to understand any colleagues that decided to risk that respect for their profession just for “likes” on social media.

@missyB1 are you on the frontline yourself?

@WilbursSomePig

I did 26 years as a registered nurse (Dh and I met at work). I left a couple of years ago when I got breast cancer. So I do know and understand about standards of professional behaviour, and the importance of maintaining public respect and confidence. I would have rather chewed my own arm off than post a video on the internet of myself playing the fool at work. And yes we did have many laughs and silly times at work - it is important to relieve stress, but we didn’t feel the need to make it public- we knew better than that.

@WilburIsSomePig - even if @missyB1 isn't on the frontline, why on earth do you think her unqualified to represent her husband's view on this?

I work in secondary support of a keyworker service. We already agreed ourselves that we wouldn't post anything lighthearted on SM, because we'd find it disrespectful and distasteful.

I work front line emergency services and to be honest have avoided these articles due to past experience as a union rep. Most public services have the same clause in their contracts where it is a disciplinary procedure if you bring the ‘service into disrepute’ I am not anti dancing my concern is someone in NHS professional standards is saving these so that when it’s over the discipline procedures can start. I am not sure any contract has the opt out of “acceptable in extreme circumstances” hence my concern about these being posted

We've lost our neighbours this week, husband and wife in their 70s. They were terrified of getting covid and did everything they could to isolate. It made me really sad to see the dancing and prancing. Any other day I'd have probably been fine but this week has been tough and I think there are better ways for the stress to relieve stress than perform for socail media. These dances take some time to get right and I don't believe all the learning of the routine happens in breaks. This is really not the time, if you must do then do it but don't post on social media.

I agree with that, Powergower, I had/have no problem with NHS staff or anybody else, dancing. I hate the fact that it's turned into a social media performance, it's done HUGE damage.

I'm sorry to hear about your neighbours, that's very sad.

Locally, the Trust comms team has posted their Amarillo video to the official FB page. It seems likely they shot it too.

These dances take some time to get right and I don't believe all the learning of the routine happens in breaks. This is really not the time, if you must do then do it but don't post on social media.

Some of my friends' schools do these sort of things for the y11 leavers. It's done on breaks or at the start/end of the day and people learn the moves at home.

I don't see any reason why hospital staff would be any different.

@missyB1 - that's interesting, I ask because my sister is a frontline Dr and she is similarly horrified by these videos. She's knackered, living away from her family and hasn't seen her kids for over three weeks. She just can't understand why anyone would see this as acceptable. However, my brother in law thinks it's all a great laugh and a good way to release the pressure etc. Having said that, I suppose he's not seeing the impact it has on her every day the way that you do with your DH because she's living at the hospital right now. I was kind of in two minds about these videos until we had a family zoom chat last night and he was asking her why she's not doing 'something similar ha ha ha' and the look on her face made me think that it was probably fortunate for him that he was 10 miles away.

My fear is that the NHS are jumping the shark somewhat with these videos. I did see one on social media this morning which was after the 'clap for carers' last night with staff having a minutes silence for those who had lost their lives. That did seem far more appropriate.

I think the thing irritating me the most in all the discussions about this is the attempts at emotional blackmail, the whole "we have been looking after DYING PEOPLE and you cold soulless monsters want to deny us any fun" type interjections, as if all hcps and social care staff thought positively about the videos (we don't) and as if no hcps or social care staff can ever be criticised or disagreed with again (we can).

I agree with that, Powergower, I had/have no problem with NHS staff or anybody else, dancing. I hate the fact that it's turned into a social media performance, it's done HUGE damage.

I also agree. I think it's the social media aspect of it that many people object to.

Same, it's the response that you can't be critical of the videos being published on social media without hating all HCPs. It's pathetic, and no one is above criticism if they choose to publish something in the public arena, it doesn't detract from how someone feels otherwise about things.

@thecatsthecats

why on earth do you think her unqualified to represent her husband's view on this?

Um. I don't believe that I said this.

It's propaganda, pure and simple.

The same happened in China. "Viral" videos of dancing hospital staff designed to "boost morale".

We don't need that here. We don't live under a dictatorship.

It is propaganda Mucklowe and so is the clapping (promoted and egged on by politicians). It’s to distract the masses from the misery.

I thought that when i watched One World Together. There was what appeared to be a surgeon in scrubs doing the worm (on the hospital floor). Actually that might have been in the US but the same questions apply. On the one hand we're being told this is deadly serious and other we have the health workers involved basically pissing about whilst on duty. Something doesn't add up.

Something doesn't add up

I am beginning to despise this phrase.

Spit it out then, what exactly do you want to imply? Is it something based on concrete fact that only you an a select few are party to? Are you fear mongering? Are you looking to create tension? C’mon share your fascinating insight with the simple sheeple.

Chill the fuck out. I am perfectly entitled to feel sceptical about what is happening and I am under absolutely no obligation to turn that scepticism into a fully formed, published research piece at your demand @cornettoninja. My feelings belong to me and I will express them here as I see fit.

On Sky News, Dr. Chris Pickering is describing the surreal situation in his hospital in Stoke, which has seen a drastic reduction in patients. He states that stroke and heart attack patients are not attending hospital. Patients are dying because of this To the posters on here denying this is happening and pretending dancing nurses is something to be lauded? Your priorities are seriously screwed. The 'protect the NHS 'slogan is both a manifestation of and a factor in the profound dysfunction in the NHS.

My feelings belong to me and I will express them here as I see fit.

Crack on, you don’t need my permission do you?

Posting an open ended statement and expecting not to be questioned on it then getting defensive when you are isn’t really how forums work is it?